Welder Prices Falling?

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Is it me or are welder prices mainly new but some used as well?  The imports seem to be knocking up to 20% or more off their stated "retail" pricing and at least as far as E bay is concerned Lincoln/Century and Hobart are down compared to recent prices in the box stores and others.  Miller is still up there but it seems like :buy now" deals go without being purchased.  I have been in the market to upgrade to a 240v MIG and have been watching prices for a month or so.  I forget the model but I just saw a nearly new Miller (forget the model) that had been selling at auction in the $800 price range with a buy now of $900 not even get a bid at $500.Is this the economy (stupid), new technology coming in, or something else?  At any rate demand is way down apparently.  My guess is the world wide economic situation.
Reply:I guess it's the old law of supply and demand. If there's not enough demand and supply goes up, then the price has to come down.                                       JMG,                                                  MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:many like me throw out a ridiculously low bid for something we really do not need but can use if the price is right.  but yes the economy is a big factor.Just some stuff in my shop.
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusI guess it's the old law of supply and demand. If there's not enough demand and supply goes up, then the price has to come down.                                       JMG,                                                  Mike
Reply:Welding machines have come down alot. I had a lincoln sa250 for sale and alot of people on ebay were asking 3500 to 5000 so I put it on there for $2500 and didn't get a hit on it and relisted it 3 times before it finally sold. The market has alot of  people out of work and those who are working are being tight with the money. If you need a machine now is a great time to upgrade I know I did.Vantage 300 kubota ,miller 304 xmt ,lincoln ln 25 pro , ranger 305 G, plenty of other tools of the trade to make the sparks fly.
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusI guess it's the old law of supply and demand. If there's not enough demand and supply goes up, then the price has to come down.                                       JMG,                                                  Mike
Reply:i believe its a combination of the foreign made welders turning the lower end market competitive and the prices for the smaller migs and tigs are going to come down because of it... and the economy in general..Last edited by brucer; 11-17-2010 at 08:08 PM.
Reply:The price for new welders has not come down at my LWS. They are up.Copper prices will influence this also.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Originally Posted by snoeproeThe price for new welders has not come down at my LWS. They are up.
Reply:Originally Posted by Rick VWhen I read this, it seemed out-of-line with what others here were saying but in-tune with what I had observed since the spring/summer.  I returned to this post to check snoeproe's location and saw Ontario Canada - yep, same as me!  It all makes sense now... Canadians still being screwed on prices.
Reply:Originally Posted by stevewmE bay
Reply:you forgot craigs list ive 2  welders i bought that were used twice , And i paid very littfor them. I alaways keep an eye on c list for good dealsmiller maxstar 150   hobart handler 210 w mig conversion hobart 250 arc force plasma cutter    boston ind cutting torch miller performance auto darkening helmet milwalkee 14in chop saw 10,000 watt generator huge drill press and industrial band saw
Reply:I use the "crazedlist" aggregator to good effect. The holidays are coming. Expect people to dump stuff.
Reply:New machine prices go up a little every year, which is typical.  Used prices are down now and have been for at least 3-4 years,  due to the economy.  Great time to buy something used.MM350P/Python/Q300MM175/Q300DialarcHFHTP MIG200PowCon300SMHypertherm380ThermalArc185Purox oaF350CrewCab4x4LoadNGo utilitybedBobcat250XMT304/Optima/SpoolmaticSuitcase12RC/Q300Suitcase8RC/Q400Passport/Q300Smith op