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I have been learning how to run a mill lately, I have never really messed with one before, and the machine ate two 3/4" endmills in an hour so I knew I was doing something wrong but i was following the machinist handbook on speeds. I talked to one of the old timers around and he just laughed and called me a dumb *** when I told him I didnt have a cooling system of some type on it. so I got one mostly put together today with stuff in the shop just need an adjustable nozzle probably scroung one off of a broken back pack sprayer. hear is a photo of the tank and plumbing          of course after I had it mostly done I realized how cheap they are on ebay, o-well live and learn Attached ImagesDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:i forgot to mention, its not my design I got it off this site or the internet somewhereDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:http://www.indmark.in/vortex-cold-air-guns.html Get a cold gun for your milling machine. Keeps your tooling cool and you dont have coolant spray everywhere. Air also helps keep chips blown away. These things get cold enough that there will be frost on the outside of the air tube.
Reply:Originally Posted by bhardy501http://www.indmark.in/vortex-cold-air-guns.html Get a cold gun for your milling machine. Keeps your tooling cool and you dont have coolant spray everywhere. Air also helps keep chips blown away. These things get cold enough that there will be frost on the outside of the air tube.
Reply:Originally Posted by bhardy501http://www.indmark.in/vortex-cold-air-guns.html Get a cold gun for your milling machine. Keeps your tooling cool and you dont have coolant spray everywhere. Air also helps keep chips blown away. These things get cold enough that there will be frost on the outside of the air tube.
Reply:I was checking out also, looks like it uses a lot of air but for stuff that cant have fluid on it or plastics that get pliable when hot it would be great. it looks like a nice piece of equipment for certain applications, the theory makes sense.      The one I copied is called a  Zero Fog Mister on google search. not sure of the link I copied to my desktop a year or so ago dont know were its at now.didnt mean to copy you oldiron2 typing when you postedLast edited by idacal; 03-23-2012 at 01:10 AM.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Originally Posted by idacalI was checking out also, looks like it uses a lot of air but for stuff that cant have fluid on it or plastics that get pliable when hot it would be great. it looks like a nice piece of equipment for certain applications, the theory makes sense.      The one I copied is called a  Zero Fog Mister on google search. not sure of the link I copied to my desktop a year or so ago dont know were its at now.didnt mean to copy you oldiron2 typing when you posted
Reply:Any pictures of the business end?I've been using a fog buster on my mill for a few years which I think is similar. I do a lot of drilling and counter sinking in 6061-T6 aluminum with the setup. Most of my drills are bright HSS. Brucer convinced me to switch to vortex cooler a few months ago. I bought a chiller but haven't had time to hook it up... still using the mister.  Part of my hesitation to make the leap is that over half my daily work is drilling... and I know my mister does the job. Here's the thread: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=61866What are you using for your coolant? I bought a gallon of kool mist a couple years ago when I was at the LWS... and I still have half a gallon. I mix it very light. Not sure if there's something better. It appears to work. I'm amazed how little coolant I use.
Reply:it was an old chunk 5" round my grampa had laying around when he passed on 6 years ago who knows how old or what it was I remember tripping over it 25 years ago as a little kid  I was cutting 2 inches a minute at 600 RPM  3/4"  two fluted endmill taking a .400 deep pass that was the last one that ruined a bit anyway. after doing that I figured learning feed rates out of books and the hard way was too expensive. I figured it was time to do some talking with the old machinists I know. of course they had a good  laugh at me and set me straight. hey we all deserve  it sometimes Last edited by idacal; 03-23-2012 at 02:16 AM.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:fore hire i havent got the nozzle done yet Im still trying to scrounge something that will work. as for fluid Im open for advice I have no Idea what to run. I have ran this mill for 2 hours and averaged a destroyed  endmill every half hour. a lathe you can regrind until you figure it out. Im realizing a mill is too expensive to do that.Last edited by idacal; 03-23-2012 at 02:12 AM.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:When I was in the machine shop class at local vo tech we had the cold gun air nozzles and they are great. Never used any type of cutting fluid other than drilling and tapping using cutting oil for those along with cold air. Works great when using end mill, face mill, flycutter, key way cutters also with cutting oil. If your feeds and speeds are set correctly and you have sharp tooling appropriate for the material you shouldnt need anything else on a manual machine. CNC is cutting at such high speeds you have to have flood cooling.Last edited by bhardy501; 03-23-2012 at 12:08 PM.
Reply:I've never run a mill with air cooling, that being said cutting steel on a large band saw with air cooling is a joke, atleast the Ellis brand one I use some.  Blade life is not very good compared all the liquid ones I've been around.  It might be cooling the cutter but sometimes you just need lubrication.
Reply:Originally Posted by cd19I've never run a mill with air cooling, that being said cutting steel on a large band saw with air cooling is a joke, atleast the Ellis brand one I use some.  Blade life is not very good compared all the liquid ones I've been around.  It might be cooling the cutter but sometimes you just need lubrication.