Nasty list of bad welding fumes.

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Is there a list of metals that give off bad or lethal fumes when welded? I know zinc is bad but not lethal. Others?
Reply:Zinc fumes can kill, but it takes a lot.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
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Reply:Brake cleaner is one of the worst.  Makes Phosgene gas when hit with welding heat. NEVER clean anything to be welded with brake cleaner.Miller Dynasty 200DXMiller 252 Miller 250xMiller Syncrowave 250Miller AEAD200 LegendMiller 375 Xtreme plasmaLincoln WeldPak 100Victor O/A
Reply:Isn't welding galvanized steel poisonous?My uncle is a welder and says it is but You can drink a glass of milk to coat the lining of your stomach so it wont make you sick.Or I think grind it would work too.
Reply:That would be the zinc in the galvanizing.stainless can cause problems with hexavalent chromiumcertain fluxes will give off bad fumes, silica dust from slag can cause silicosis, chlorinated solvents are a big big no no when using argon as a shielding gas, makes the phosgene gas talked about earlier. Basically used in chemical warfare in WWI. I had an experience with this but I didn't realize it at the time. Got just a small whiff and instantly felt my sinuses start burning, an overwhelming chlorine smell and had trouble catching my breath for a while, about 2 days after this my kidneys were hurting and on day 3 my piss was pretty dark but I was starting to feel better. I'm lucky I didn't get it worse, it can be fatal and often leaves permanent damage.cadmium plating on steel is not too good for you either
Reply:Manganese is no picnic.http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/welding/"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:https://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19990902.htmlBeryllium copper.  I recall major concerns with machining this stuff too.
Reply:So in short, hold your breath when you weld!
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTSo in short, hold your breath when you weld!
Reply:Like AKmud says that Phosgene gas is absolutely deadly. Chlorinated cleaners/solvents have that. BraKleen makes non-chlorinated also. If your fixing somebodys broke junk all the time watch out.Arcon Workhorse 300MSPowcon 400SMTPowcon SM400 x 2Powcon SM3001968 SA200 Redface1978 SA250 DieselMiller Super 32P FeederPre 1927 American 14" High Duty LatheK&T Milwaukee 2H Horizontal MillBryan
Reply:In terms of metals, Lead and Cadmium are the really bad ones. Chromium and Manganese are long-term health hazards but not immediately deadly. There are plenty of other toxic metals but most are not likely to be encountered in welding. Always a good idea to wear a respirator and/or have adequate ventilation when welding, especially when you are not sure what the metal is.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
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Reply:Im in the electroplating business of zinc, cadmium and other metals.  I know the weldors don't like the zinc coatings, but don't complain about it much with our company when taking some simple precautions.  Zinc fumes alone can be safely avoided with the proper respirator, fume extractor or holding one's breath.  Now welding over cadmium plated pieces of steel I'm told, are a totally different animal.  Cadmium is a RoHS substance that is like garlic to a vampire or kryptonite to super man!  Any metal listed in the international RoHS directive, is bad $hit.  By the way, the four RoHS listed metals considered super-duper toxic are Mercury, Lead, Cadmium and Hexavalent Chromium.   The last three in that list are the ones that become vaporized during welding and should NEVER be inhaled, however slight.  Stainless steel when welded, also produces Hexavalent chromium (aka: hex-chrome or hex-6) as previously mentioned by ironmangq.  Many zinc electroplated surfaces are treated (dipped) with what's known as a "chromate conversion" coating (read: "chrome[ate]" as in "hex-chrome") as well as the not so much used cadmium coatings.   So a "chromate conversion coating" of hex-chrome on top of a zinc plated piece of metal is even worse, than just plain old zinc coatings when welding.  I can tell if a zinc coating has a layer of Hexavalent chromium with the "yellow" (gold) irredescent sheen of the metal.  However most zinc coatings are now top coated with a less dangerous coating of "Trivalent chrome" (less brilliant sheen).   Beware though that hex-chrome is NOT totally banned and is still widely used in some applications.  So bottom line is, hold your breath or use a fan that pulls the fumes away from your welding arc, when welding over a plated piece of metal.Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller  625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita  Baileigh NRA Life Member
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Reply:i have a question. when you are gringind the layer of galvanized off...how far do you grind? how thick is the layer?you ain't gotta eat it
Reply:inside the electrode box/can is a material safety data sheet which should list every ingredient and "acceptable" exposure limits. maybe it also mentions the fumes given off from other metals? it's been a long time since i looked at one.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by ksmrfi have a question. when you are grinding the layer of galvanized off...how far do you grind? how thick is the layer?
Reply:Ok thanks. Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2you ain't gotta eat it