Lifted F350 Bumper Build Thread

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Hey yall!! So, heres something that I've been working on lately... Building a matching set of offroad bumpers for an F350 pulling truck. Just wanted to share the videos, I'll be updating this thread as I get more installments of the series uploaded...But anyway, the skin of these bumpers is 3/16" and 1/4" plate, with a frame made of 1/2" plate. Im really happy with the project... There are 4 "D" rings on the front bumper, just because of how this truck is lifted... The two rings you see are just decorative, and there are two more rings that flip down from the frame mounted brackets I made, and those rings are the ones to be used for large loads. This is part one. Hope everyones having a good weekend [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g08JB_lbjL4[/ame][Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Lanse.... You must have fab skills in your blood......I think if you weren't 18 or 19....... and didn't show your mistakes.... I would be less impressed......The fact that you can do this kind of stuff and don't mind calling it out when you FUBAR something..... I'm a fan of your work..... Seriously good to see your videos.... nice work.....Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:cool deal man. I wish i had your ambition. cutting all that by hand is a little too much work for me.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Definitely very cool work. I enjoy building stuff like that. I would like to see the mounting brackets a little better, Maybe a drawing or something to see how you designed them. I have been approached to in the past about building a bumper but when they figure out how much the material is going to cost along with a reasonable labor rate they usually decide not to.
Reply:Originally Posted by bhardy501Definitely very cool work. I enjoy building stuff like that. I would like to see the mounting brackets a little better, Maybe a drawing or something to see how you designed them. I have been approached to in the past about building a bumper but when they figure out how much the material is going to cost along with a reasonable labor rate they usually decide not to.
Reply:I don't get to build like i used to, so it's nice to see the progress with someone elses build. Your youtube vids are fun to watch too.  Looking forward to Part II of the bumper build.IdealArc 250 AC/DC Roundtop225 AC/DC TombstoneSP175TO/A Linc-Harris Port a TorchTitan Vapor 90 5x Lincoln Helmets  CH105 Mig21g comp, drills, grinders, buff/polishers, hvlp guns, etc.
Reply:Yeah post part 2 in this thread. I wanna see it too.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Not bad for a punk kid!Good job Lanse.
Reply:Good Job!!!Looking forward to part 2Miller Synchrowave 180 SDLincoln PowerMig 255Hypertherm Powermax 45Torchmate 2x2Victor O/A
Reply:Hey lanse, looks good.  here is the one on my Excursion.  It was a Tow truck bumper I got at auction for about $125.  I cut a good bit of the bottom and sides and made the Milemarker (humvee) winch mount to bolt into it.  Still need to do a lot more work on it at some pointTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Soutthpaw: Great score on the bumper.  Reminds me of repo  IdealArc 250 AC/DC Roundtop225 AC/DC TombstoneSP175TO/A Linc-Harris Port a TorchTitan Vapor 90 5x Lincoln Helmets  CH105 Mig21g comp, drills, grinders, buff/polishers, hvlp guns, etc.
Reply:"Unofficial level of awesomeness". I'm going to have to remember that one! Cool Video and good Job brother.-1948 Short Hood SA-200-Millermatic 251-Hypertherm PM45-Victor Torches/Regs
Reply:I'd like to see a pic of the mounts, and how they were designed.Mostly, I'd like to see if you retained the crush zone in the frame, or negated it in favor of strength, considering the fact you've mounted the D rings for towing.If the bolt visible in the video is the sole attachment why is the D ring offset below it?  Seems to me it ought to be in line with the bolt to avoid a lever effect on the plate it's attached to.  Here's some tensile ratings on Grade 8 bolts.  I didn't come up with shear strength though.  http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-in...ade-Chart.aspx  Looks like you have a pretty big bolt in there, so tensile failure might not be an issue.  Keep in mind that most factory installed tow hooks are attached in shear, not in tension.  Usually either bolted or riveted somewhere on the frame.I faced some of the same issues when I built a bumper for my F-350."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Alllright, here is part two!! Im currently workin on part three... I'll have it up soon. Hope everyones having a good week [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcR-wMgVYpQ[/ame][Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Looks great man. Was the customer happy on Monday? I'll see about getting some vids of the 1941 dodge rat rod I'm going to be working on soon.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:I don't see the pics of the mounts.  I did look at it in HD full screen, and it does look like a single maybe 1" bolt.This is looking like OCC The idea is to show the work, explain the logic behind it, and the finished product (welds etc.)This makes it all seem like magic, and that's not what it's all about.  It's about design, craftsmanship, and a thought out process.I'm not sure what the second set of D rings is all about   Must be cosmetic, cause they can't be seriously welded onto 3/16 plate The back bumper is off to a good start, although 1/2" plate (at least I think it is) is a bit of overkill.  The real design "must do" is to prevent side movement........gussets.  The tensile strength of 3/8" is more than adequate for a rear bumper on a pickup.  I always   rant and rave at hanging a ton of weight on a truck where it isn't necessary.The discussion is what a forum is all about.  I'm not trying to be a pr@ck, but it is what it is.  I can't count the times I've been slammed.  It's all about making you, and others, better at what you do."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI don't see the pics of the mounts.  I did look at it in HD full screen, and it does look like a single maybe 1" bolt.I'm not sure what the second set of D rings is all about   Must be cosmetic, cause they can't be seriously welded onto 3/16 plate The back bumper is off to a good start, although 1/2" plate (at least I think it is) is a bit of overkill.  The real design "must do" is to prevent side movement........gussets.  The tensile strength of 3/8" is more than adequate for a rear bumper on a pickup.  I always   rant and rave at hanging a ton of weight on a truck where it isn't necessary.
Reply:Originally Posted by NoBigDeal FabLooks great man. Was the customer happy on Monday? I'll see about getting some vids of the 1941 dodge rat rod I'm going to be working on soon.
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammI don't see the pics of the mounts.  I did look at it in HD full screen, and it does look like a single maybe 1" bolt.This is looking like OCC The idea is to show the work, explain the logic behind it, and the finished product (welds etc.)This makes it all seem like magic, and that's not what it's all about.  It's about design, craftsmanship, and a thought out process.I'm not sure what the second set of D rings is all about   Must be cosmetic, cause they can't be seriously welded onto 3/16 plate The back bumper is off to a good start, although 1/2" plate (at least I think it is) is a bit of overkill.  The real design "must do" is to prevent side movement........gussets.  The tensile strength of 3/8" is more than adequate for a rear bumper on a pickup.  I always   rant and rave at hanging a ton of weight on a truck where it isn't necessary.The discussion is what a forum is all about.  I'm not trying to be a pr@ck, but it is what it is.  I can't count the times I've been slammed.  It's all about making you, and others, better at what you do.
Reply:Originally Posted by toomanytoyzzNot really seeing the OCC comparison at all??  I've been wheelin' for years and have seen all types of bumpers on the trails.  3/8" is also overkill in my opinion.  Most plate bumpers from all the "well known" companies are made from 3/16" plate which mostly all come with mounts for D-Rings etc.  I've seen them yank vehicles out too many times to count.  You gotta remember that hooking a tow strap up and pulling a vehicle out from the mud is WAY different than pulling yourself out of a rock ledge your rear tires are hung up on.  Winch baskets and mounts are normally 1/4" plate and I've never seen one detonate while pulling on the steepest angle on the trail.  Basically both bumpers Lanse is fabn' are plenty strong.  I'm willing to bet the owner isn't going to be taking that through Moab or the Rubicon anytime soon.  If he does the bumpers withstanding the trek will be the least of his worries.
Reply:I'm sorry but mud is no joke. I avoid it at all costs, you never see a bull dozer pulling a guy stuck on a ledge but you see them pull guys out of the mud all the time. There is a reason for that.
Reply:Looks good Lanse.Buy American, or don't whine when you end up on the bread line.
Reply:Originally Posted by NoBigDeal FabSo I take it your saying that pulling a truck out of mud is easier than hanging from a ledge, I beg to differ, and so does the US army recovery school. A 10,000 pound truck burried axle deep in mud will require close to 20,000 pounds of pulling power to extract. At least that's what the army teaches, in short burried axle deep doubles the weight, top of frame triples, and half way up the door quadruples the needed pulling force. This is due to the suction created by the mud. A vehicle hanging from a ledge will only have the weight of the veichle to deal with. I have spent 4-5 years as a wrecker operator in the army, and have performed probably 4-500 extractions, of witch the easiest were trucks hanging off a ledge. The hardest was a road grader burried to the cab in a rice patty. It took 2 days and my wrecker (80,000 pound main winch, 20,000 pound self recovery winch anchored to a tank) and a M88 tank wrecker (120,000 pound winch) and 3-4 snatch blocks per line to pull it out. It was so stuck we bent the main blade on the grader upon extraction. I'm sorry but mud is no joke. I avoid it at all costs, you never see a bull dozer pulling a guy stuck on a ledge but you see them pull guys out of the mud all the time. There is a reason for that.
Reply:When I was younger, and had money for 4wds (pre marriage days) we had a place everyone called "walk out". It was a very fitting name because if you went by yourself you stood a real good chance that you would be walking out. It was one of those areas that would be bone dry on the top but as soon as you got out in it the bottom would fall out. Dry crust top with several feet of mushy, watery mud underneath. I never took my truck through it but have used my truck along with a couple of other trucks to get stuck vehicles dislodged from it. This stuff would suck the truck down and glue it in there. Seen multiple cables break and parts bend trying to get trucks out of that place. It can take some pulling force to get a truck out in certain situations.
Reply:I have been in and out of the diesel repair shop for the last coupleof months as my welder gets rebuilt. Seems I see about 1 or 2  trucks a week in the shop getting the front end rebuilt cause the bumper is too heavy or the tires are too big. Last week there was a ford F-350 that had the most massive bumper I ever saw, and yes the whole front end was shot and being rebuilt that bumper must have weighed 500lbs and I could be off by 150 or 200, it had built in toolboxes and I didn't check inside them but my guess is chain and more heavy stuff.Another was a Dodge 3500 that the owner had put 22.5 ( real truck ) tires on, shop owner told me its the 2nd front end rebuild in 18 months, and the bed height on the back was just a tad under my chin ( and I am not short ). How you could work off the back of it I haven't a clue, you need a ladder to get up to it I like protective bumpers, but I don't see the point when the bumper gets so massive it damages the front end and exceeds the frame strength.Hope you like part three [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsiktXUogrk[/ame][Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Very cool, I like the fast forward sections. Makes me tired just watching them. Great work. Look forward to the next one.
Reply:Thank you!! I'll have it here soon...[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Heres part four!! Any thoughts/feedback? Both front and back are almost done Hope yall like the video[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCM5LT7j7cQ[/ame][Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Good job on the bumpers Lance, they look heavy duty. I also enjoy your video's. Your giving me the itch to do some for my truck.GuyHypertherm Powermax 30Miller Syncrowave 250 DXMiller Challenger MigDevilbiss 60Gal 6hp Air CompressorCentury A/C D/C 225/140 Welder
Reply:Looks great. Gotta love a small town. Wish I lived in one. There just is not enough work in a small town.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Lanse, Damb good job on wearing your PPE when applicable at all times!Should be a lesson to all of us, if some punk-a$$ kid can wear it and not complain.....Just kidding, nicely done.Lincoln SA 200Esab Caddy 160Thermal Arc 201TSMiller Dialarc HFI don't like making plans for the day because then the word "premeditated" gets thrown around the courtroom....
Reply:I clicked on this because I plan on doing a bumper for my F250 within the next 6 months or so. It was entertaining though even outside of the fab part of it - not sure how some people can be entertaining like that while I'm sure most of us just filming ourselves working would be pretty lame. That and dude's vid's make me homesick for Indiana - speaking of Jason Aldean. (Evansville to be exact - green, humid and they're just big enough to have stores that stay open on Sunday   )Lincoln Squarewave 175Ex-aircraft sheet metal guy
Reply:Great job on both the bumpers and the videos!
Reply:Great job dude, i just started with welding and stuff, and I really like what you done here, my enterire family it is a metal worker´s so i have no excuses to lear.BTW: when your are painting it is some shot sound hahaha.         Sorry for the bad english, school´s arround here aren´t good
Reply:Hey Lanse, here is a little more progress on my bumper.   Used receiver tubing for the push bumper mounts.  This way I can add various accessories to the bumper with 2" sq tube.   Thinking of adding. About 6" drop push bumperettes so it will match up to most standard car bumper height.  Then put the trailer balls on the reverse side so I can rotate the tube 180* to expose the ball instead of the bumperette.     Might do a drop in bike rack too.     Winch is in now too,  just need to get the fittings to connect to power steering/hydroboost and the wireless winch controlTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Wow, beefy bumper!! I got part five ready to go [Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009