A New Pair of Sawhorses....to last a lifetime and then some

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I can't claim this is my idea, I stole it from a fellow that had invented the concept, beefed them up, used steel tubing for the cross piece, and added a couple of electrical boxes for juice for tools.  The nice thing with these is that they self level, are rock stable and tear down for easy storage.  Here's where the idea came from:http://www.theultimatesawhorse.com/specifications.php
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Reply:They look good and strong but how do they self level and what keeps the the " A Frames " from coming off the support bar.
Reply:The two legs swivel on the main bar and will sit flat on any floor. Probably a set screw hold them on the main bar via that machined groove. Great work.
Reply:I like the self leveling effect. How much do they weigh? I now know what I'm building my Dad for Christmas... I "borrowed" a set of his horses a while ago.
Reply:200,Looks like a very professional fabrication! I've liked the concept for a number of years, but have never scrounged the bits and pieces to build even one pair. One of these days I may get a round to it, hopefully. In truth, the design I prefer is very similar to your copies from theultimatesawhorse, save that instead of the swiveling fixed splayed legs on each end the other design uses a a folding jointed, next size larger nesting pipe leg swiveling off the other leg and height adjustable via a chain at the base that is attached permanently to one leg and can be adjusted in or out and simply hooked to the other leg to vary elevation and limit the amount of "spread" (whewww, long sentence!) The design you went with appears just as strong, maybe more so. The modified design only has the benefit(s) of being easily folded together for storage and transport plus the single legs, instead of the two splayed legs needn't sit on a flat base/floor/ground to be stable. As I mentioned, never have gotten off my *** to fab up either copy...just sitting around bitchin' at myself for either putting up with commercially purchased metal (and quite flimsy) saw horse brackets or even flimsier plastic folding sawhorses. Now that I've looked at the design from theultimatesawhorse I see how the two designs could easily be mixed and matched to build (In my mind's eye at least) a better than ultimate design.Thanks for the wake up call!!!!Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:I've built several swing sets for porch swings like that. Out in a yard they will self steady but I wouldn't call it self level.
Reply:Originally Posted by Mick120Nice job.I think I'd prefer something along these lines.....be an interesting project in steel for extending the welding bench....height adjustable of course.
Reply:Not to get us totally OT... but has anyone tried these:[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHuWGXHacaY[/ame]
Reply:forhire--that's a nice looking rig I don't think a guy could build that for $35 bucks, nice design.  The ones I built aren't very heavy even all assembled they are easily moved around.  I went with 11 gage 1.5 x 1 tubing and turned solid stock for the cross piece and the receiver on the legs, that was the hardest part.  With a bit of ingenuity a fellow could probably avoid all that turning with either DOM or standard diameters.  With a 2 1/2" end mill on the mill I coped the ends to fit the round receivers, made for a tighter weld. Jammer--there is in fact a 3/8 X 16 TPI set screw that holds the cross bar to the legs it tracks in the slot you'll see on the cross piece.WyoRoy--a folding design would be better to compact and move.  I built brackets to have these hang on the wall and in the back of a truck they don't seem to take up much space.  If you were moving them in and out of doorways all day folding would be handy.  Or to be honest I'd buy the ones for 35 bucks above. Now get out there and start building something.
Reply:Originally Posted by 200mphbusaWyoRoy--a folding design would be better to compact and move.  I built brackets to have these hang on the wall and in the back of a truck they don't seem to take up much space.  If you were moving them in and out of doorways all day folding would be handy.  Or to be honest I'd buy the ones for 35 bucks above. Now get out there and start building something.
Reply:WyoRoy--thats a nice South Bend, looks to be in great shape, while we are talking future projects, here's just one of my future (seems to be never ending restorations a 16" 1946 SBL).BTW--I spent a lifetime one summer in Douglas down from the road for you, coal exploration drilling. Cheers
Reply:Here's a variation of the folding sawhorse."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Oldendum--sweet design and far easier to build than the operation that I went through and they fold up. Nice job!
Reply:I have nearly the same thing, only I used 1" and 3/4" EMT conduit and no horizontal between the legs so the legs nest between each other.  They are tall and I use them mostly for for painting.  I angled the legs out from the cross piece so they splay out when set up.  Best thing is when you're done, they fold up to only 1"  thick for storage on the wall.MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:Oldendum has it down to a T! That's the design I was trying to explain.Douglas isn't a bad little town. Got my start in Wyoming there back in '72 when I finished high school in Kansas, helped bring in the harvest and than rode the bus to Douglas...back when Chugwater was a thriving metro area and the I-25 Interstate wasn't. Worked for Russell Lumber when the company was doing subcontracting construction work for Getty International over in Shirley Basin. Following that, two years of K.U. and a few years on the road doing dams and power plant builds (history majors didn't have a rosy enough hook for my liking back in the late Nixon years!). Popped the owner of Russell Lumber down along the tracks near Bridger Jct. Didn't recognize him while we were waiting for the police to arrive. Guy was lucky he pushed in his clutch at the last second when his pickup was on the road crossing and rolled back enough that I only flipped it twice...rang his bell repeatedly. Dispatcher called my train up some 20-30 miles down the track and told me they found his last will & testament on the dash. Friend from high school still worked for him and told me that when it came to RR crossings after that he would jam on the brakes well back and gladly sit and wait.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:200mph:What paint did you use and that tailstock? I like the colour. I'm doing several items that I would like to paint that colour of white.Thanks.Glenn.Sign on East Texas payphone: Calls to God 40 cents......it's a local call...
Reply:The pic I posted is DDA52's work, not mine.  My son made a similar set but with a wee bit of difference in the way the pivot is connected."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Originally Posted by OldendumThe pic I posted is DDA52's work, not mine.  My son made a similar set but with a wee bit of difference in the way the pivot is connected.
Reply:Don's are in post 2 here:  http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtal...=pipe%20standsI used Google search:  sawhorse site:hobartwelders.com"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Darn Pops, using that Google search never popped into my head! I tried Hobart but used 'sawhorse' once again in their search engine parameters along with Don's name. Looks like 'stand(s)' or 'horse(s) would have found it for me.EDIT: I took another look at that photo...you sure that isn't Paul's shop instead of Don's?Last edited by WyoRoy; 08-12-2012 at 06:57 PM.Lincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Maybe that first pic was Paul's."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Nice designs and good looks, guys. How do you clamp material to the round stock? Could always use square or 2:1 material on those swivels, 200mph those too, would self 'level' or 'present face'. When a welder tells you to "stick it", what do they really mean?"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Reply:200busa's are my favorite. Ill probably build mine about the same way used DOM tubing and have alittle less machining. Maybe just make one end to swivel and the other rigid. You only need one end to swivel in order for the saw horse to sit flat on the ground but you'd have to build it like 200busa for break down and storage ability. I dig those saw horses.
Reply:Very nice, are those stainless, don't leave those outside, be gone in the middle of the night. I like the way they store."Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DCMillermatic 251   Syncrowave 300   30A spoolgunLincoln MP210Hypertherm 45(2) LN 25(2) Lincoln Weldanpower 225 CV(4) SA200   1 short hood    SA250    SAM 400Pops,I can't say one way or the other either. The shot looks like the back room in Paul's shop down there in 'Snakebite', Alabama as does the welding bench. On the other side of the arguement, the saw on the top of the bench reminds me of Don's cold saw, I don't see the plethora of Harbor Freight tools Paul is kinda/sorta fond of and I know that Don's shop, the part I've seen in pictures, is new with steel framework, but that he built it on to the old shop which may be what this shop is of. The welding table looks Don's as well...typical generic 1/2" topped tables are impossible to denote parentage to.Memory, all I have and it's a flawed system at best, seems to indicate that Don's were the same color...well maybe a bit shinier...as what I use for many of my projects...if I decide to paint them at all. Industrial gray or taxman camoflage. Attached ImagesLincoln PrecisionTig 275Miller 251Miller DialArc 250Bridgeport millHossfeld bender & diesLogan shaperJet 14 X 40 latheSouth Bend 9" 'C'Hypertherm 900Ellis 3000 band saw21"Royersford ExcelsiorTwo shops, still too many tools.
Reply:Stampder--the paint I went with is Benjamin Moore P22 Urethane, it was recommended in a guide to renovating the SBL.  It has a Rustroeum Primer single coat with Pennatrol mixed in followed by two coats of the P22.  It has great flow out and very little brush stokes.  I the color matched to my Mill and it was dead perfect.  Not cheap at $26/Qt, cheaper if you buy a gallon.  I used a 3/4" artist brush and I am convinced it made a difference.  Let me know if you would like the code for the color.
Reply:Originally Posted by frieedI have nearly the same thing, only I used 1" and 3/4" EMT conduit and no horizontal between the legs so the legs nest between each other.  They are tall and I use them mostly for for painting.  I angled the legs out from the cross piece so they splay out when set up.  Best thing is when you're done, they fold up to only 1"  thick for storage on the wall.
Reply:Will do when I get home..MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"
Reply:As promised (okay, a day late)Sawhorse open:Closed:Joint Detail:4 Horses Stored:They are surprisingly stout..Last edited by frieed; 08-15-2012 at 08:02 PM.MillerMatic 252, HTP 221 w/cooler, Hypertherm PM45, Lincoln IdealArc 250 AC/DC"I'd like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible"