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Want some relief from the sun and occasional rain because my inside work area is limited. Local zoning is a pain because my older neighborhood is on smaller sized lots and I wouldn't even be able to build my house the way it is let alone expand without major hassle. Plus, the weather is great most of the year and I may want to use my slab in the back for parking as well so want something that is flexible an non permanent. The size will probably be about 18'X15' with an 8' headroom between the beams. Probably 15' to the peak with a clerestory pitched roof to allow light and natural air flow. will probably add electric to it for outlets and some flourescent lights on chains for adjustment. Anyone have any ideas or do anything similar?here are a couple pictures of something up the street which has me thinking a few things already. Attached Images
Reply:Man let's sit down and talk about it. I am not too far from ya. My day job is at 101 and Shea, so meeting up is not an issue. I'll gladly offer up my Cnc plasma if you need anything cut.Offering CNC Plasma cutting and welding projects.Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nobigdeal.fabSupport those that support WW.
Reply:Now that the rain and fowl weather is here... I've been thinking about some cover also. I like the design you posted. Kinda like the pop-up shelter you see at the fair. I'd be tempted to build one that doubled as a 4 post gantry... get cover and lifting all in one. What about a motorize awning that extends out from the building?
Reply:Now thats what i'm talking about. i would likve to know where you could get that style of canvus. keep this one going.i really like the idea of the rollers, no permit needed..good find.
Reply:If you can get close enough to figue out how it was made or who made it there might be more than 1 that would likd to know.
Reply:Originally Posted by a1998z3i would likve to know where you could get that style of canvus.
Reply:Originally Posted by a1998z3Now thats what i'm talking about. i would likve to know where you could get that style of canvus. keep this one going.i really like the idea of the rollers, no permit needed..good find.
Reply:Spent 21 years in old town Scts, now I'm back in the valley, hanging out in the 85040 next to the I-Zone. My projects keep me outside welding on the patio year round. The breezes are light enough to allow GMAW with C25 at about 12CFH with my HHot Glue Gun almost every day. That said, I have a little 6'x8' 50% shade that - every time it storms - wants to go flying around the neighborhood! Several houses away sometimes!Also, temporary or moveable structures tend to find a home - stay in one place - so when it does, set some anchors for tie downs nearby. If something your size goes for an unauthorized flight during the seasonal "microburst" it may cost a bit to fix someone's car.In the old days, zoning didn't impact trellisses or canvas structures too much. But with the size you're talking about - 270sf - they may get interested. Check with them first. Their attitude used to be that if you painted your front door frame they wanted you to kiss some A$$, get a permit, variance or public hearing! That's why I retired.I applaud your ambition. I want to do the same thing but I'll probably limit my shade structure to one of these - and spend a Benjamin at WallyWorld! http://www.walmart.com/ip/QuikShade-...e-Top/21475672Sorry about the link. Tried to copy and paste just their pic - no go.Last edited by Fabn4Fun; 11-09-2012 at 09:54 AM.
Reply:Sunbrella is the name of the canvas they usually make marine Bimini's out of. It is good for about ten years in the bright sun. If you paint it with some water proof paint at about 5 or 6 years it will be good for another ten years more or less. It is quite expensive but far cheaper than replacing the canvas every year like the 99 dollar ones. I think it would be a very small problem to cover the roof of the structure with an aluminum skin and still have it fold-able to the extent that you could move it easy. Mac
Reply:Fabn4fun; your cool in my book. I'm in the same wind current path as you are; sometimes picks up speed between us. I just like to ability to roll it out of the way when needed.
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Reply:NBD fab, thanks for the offer! It's good to have neighbors with the same interests. I'll have to take you up on that sometime. As far as an awning, the height of my roof is only ten feet at that side of the house because of a low sloping shed roof shared by the back patio and my laundry/welding room. So it would be mighty low!In fact I hate to confess but I've been going with 20' lengths of 16g. 2"x2" tubing with screen doors clamped to them spanned across the block walls that define the RV port! So far they haven't caught air so to speak even though they only rely on gravity to hold them down. The pictures in question take a close look and you'll see where the awning is attached to an eyebolt in the concrete with a bicycle chain. As far as code. I could start another thread on that and my carport to garage conversion plans. But as far as the local code inspectors go. They've all said that if it's on wheels, or a temporary structure with tarps it doesn't concern them. Even after some complaints from neighbors about one house that has had their carport enclosed with brown tarps for over four years. I've been down to the planning office and it's mostly a waste of time to ask them anything because they'll always say no and also they purge their records every few years. I was basically told I was an #sshole for going there about the carport conversion because no one else has. Strangely enough several of my neighboring streets have a few houses with two and four post gantry cranes. One is a mobile lift taller than the house with an old boat slung underneath! One thing that businesses have done because they're not allowed signage is to buy box trucks, trailers or golf carts converted to mini box trucks and park those by the street in lieu of signs. It's silly and wacky but what are you going to do. There's the law, there's the interpretation and then there's the practices that evolve because of the interpretation that shape our different localities. There's even a consignment store for clothing in Phoenix in a double decker bus because the city wouldn't allow a store in an area zoned for a service garage where I think the owner is living! So don't rely on my areas quirks to skirt inspections for large structures. Though in most places, if it has wheels it's non-permanent. Like a trailer home for example. Also shipping containers used to be Ok before some people started filling their backyards with them and localities started specifically forbade them. Then there's some cities which don't allow temporary structures at all, even EZ-ups. Because they like that sweet permit money!I took a few more pictures of this structure. I'll put them up a little later. I don't think it's anything mass produced and the construction is pretty simple but not amateur welding at all. Pretty sure it was 6"x6" tubing with standard nuts & bolts. Then galvanized fence pipe for the shade support. |
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