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Need help with buying a new welder. I've looked at all the ones that miller makes but I can't decide which one will work best. It's hard to decide not being able to weld with each one. I'm in the process of building a drag truck. I need a welder to weld .134 wall tubing for the roll cage and some 1/4 to 1/2 plate.
Reply:Miller Millermatic 252/Lincoln PowerMig 256HH140---------------------------https://www.facebook.com/brandon.pike.9
Reply:Do you know how to weld currently? Whats your experience? Do know that a machine thats gonna be able to weld 1/2" is gonna be a $2k unit unless you want to try welding tubing with a stick welder.Reason for asking about experience is roll cage wont help one bit if your not capable of welding it correctly.Last edited by Br@ndoM@n; 05-09-2014 at 04:14 AM.HH140---------------------------https://www.facebook.com/brandon.pike.9
Reply:Originally Posted by Br@ndoM@nDo you know how to weld currently? Whats your experience? Do know that a machine thats gonna be able to weld 1/2" is gonna be a $2k unit unless you want to try welding tubing with a stick welder.Reason for asking about experience is roll cage wont help one bit if your not capable of welding it correctly.
Reply:Originally Posted by SeSacheeNeed help with buying a new welder. I've looked at all the ones that miller makes but I can't decide which one will work best. It's hard to decide not being able to weld with each one. I'm in the process of building a drag truck. I need a welder to weld .134 wall tubing for the roll cage and some 1/4 to 1/2 plate.
Reply:ThermalArc 252i Fabricator. You get mig, tig, and arc.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonThermalArc 252i Fabricator. You get mig, tig, and arc.
Reply:Sounds like he's fresh off of reading a thread somewhere on how someone "fabricated" their own roll cage in their driveway. OP: take the initial advice and really learn what you're attempting to get into. I too love working on race stuff/ but even after starting a hobby of welding for the last 5 years, I'm no where near the level needed to do roll cage stuff. You really need to put in the hours into welding practice and into welding education as well. 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauI thought MIG and TIG are both arc welding, as well as stick welding. That's where some people get confused. Thinking only stick welding as arc welding. But MIG and TIG both use an arc too, so they are all a form of arc welding.
Reply:What ever you get dont make a vehicle or trailer as your first project.I use a 120v mig for thinner stuff and 240v powered stick welder for thicker stuff.2 machines like that can be found for around half the price or less compaired to getting a single hugely all powerful mig machine, compairing used to used and new to new prices.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
Reply:Well, the guy may or may not have much experience but he's got a reason to learn and that alone makes him deserving of a civil reply. The firs thing I'd like to do is agree that hr's really defined a need for two welders, one for thick, on for thin. The very first thing I'd suggest to him is that as a "home" welder he will nearly never have any need what so ever to be able to weld half inch thick steel. Young guys always seem to somehow think they will be out there like Wanda the welder in the WW-II posters welding plate as thick as a good sized tree on the Landing Craft's assembly line. In truth a home-body spends nearly all of their welding time on stuff a quarter inch or less - a lot less. For the few times when large material needs to be dealt with you can always tack it together and then take it out to be finished.And so, what is the ideal machine for home use? I dunno, but you certainly would not be making a mistake with a Miller 211. Best of both worlds, 120 and 230 volts, sheet metal to 3/8"' and of course the Miller quality. One will set you back right at $1,100 and then add on another $500 for gas, wire, gloves, and a helmet and it'll be time to start getting that much needed experience.
Reply:Firs off you can use .134 mild steel or DOM tubing which is thinner more constant wall thickness and will pass tec. insp.,I have an old miller 130 mig that I did a few cars with.Rules Do No Allow Stick Welding anymore.Big No No.What are yo going to weld on a race truck that is 1/2" thick ?. If you do not know how to weld.Take a welding corse.Get a Tig welder and do it out of chrome molly, Lighter, stronger.
Reply:Originally Posted by mike837goPicky, picky picky.Are you turning into one of them folks that insist on using SMAW, GTAW, GMAW, FCAW, SAW, FBI, CIA, DEC, CDC and all the other not acronyms?
Reply:Originally Posted by SeSacheeNeed help with buying a new welder. I've looked at all the ones that miller makes but I can't decide which one will work best. It's hard to decide not being able to weld with each one. I'm in the process of building a drag truck. I need a welder to weld .134 wall tubing for the roll cage and some 1/4 to 1/2 plate.
Reply:Stop by your local welding supply and ask when the next Miller road show will be close to your area. They have a great selection of machines that you can try for your self. The people that travel with the display will be able to advise you on what will work and what won't.DanManipulator Of Metal
Reply:Hobart 210 MVP or Miller 211 Autoset, They are pretty much the same machine. They both have the MVP (Multi Voltage Plug) so you can run them on either 110v or 220v (weld much happier on 220v...tough...LOL). Of course with any quality MIG you can run with or without gas depending on your needs and location. The pricing is also very reasonable, you can get the Hobart 210 for 959.99 with free shipping at Northern Tool: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...9230_200479230 Or the Miller 211 Autoset for $1099 at cyberweld:http://store.cyberweld.com/mi211migw...Fcdefgodn4YAaABut it goes without saying you should always look at your LWS first. Customer service (if it is good) is always worth the little extra you may pay. These suggestions are like throwing a bowling ball at a dart board in the dark and trying to hit a home run. I don't know how much welding knowledge you have or what other fab tools you may or may not have. I'm assuming that you are just starting out and if that is the case I warn you this is very addicting and fun. My opinion is that the above machines will get you started and have a small learning curve yet are big enough that you will not outgrow them to quickly. To my knowledge (and if I am incorrect someone here will help me out) these are the largest MIG machines that will still run on 110v if needed. That was another reason for suggesting them, I do not know what access you have as far as power is concerned and these will cover it.But please do yourself a huge favor and do not get a Chinese special e-Bay machine you will never find parts for and if it breaks support just isn't. There are well priced machines on e-Bay that are not bad, I talking about the ones when you read the description you can tell it was translated, i.e. "Welder Welding Machine Electric Feed Unit DIY " That is an actual cut and paste I just did from a description on e-Bay. I'm thinking it's a safe bet that calling them up for a new MIG nozzle or troubleshooting the machine would not be productive...LOL. If you happen to be in the Phoenix, Arizona area you can swing by and try out one of my machines. Hopefully this assists you and you get a machine that works well for you.
Reply:This one. Much more machine then the smaller 200 amp models . Real 3/8 machine, and will do better on certain .250 inch welds (IMO)http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/4460283279.htmlEsab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:HaHa... When I suggested the two I did above I actually thought of the Ironman 230 first. I just decided against it because we don't know if he has access to 220V. But damn, that is one clean Craigslist machine!
Reply:Im very happy with my thermal arc 211i. It'll mig 1/4 all day long, can burn 3/8 in a pinch and can stick weld even thicker. It's perfect for a home shop. The ability to tig is a bonus as well.
Reply:[QUOTE=PsychoCowboy;4160981]HaHa... When I suggested the two I did above I actually thought of the Ironman 230 first. I just decided against it because we don't know if he has access to 220V. But damn, that is one clean Craigslist machine
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