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OK guys and gals..How would you repair this broken ear?Correct answer later....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:By getting a new one. Tyey are not expensive on the used market.
Reply:I wouldn't repair it. Replace it.There, that was easy!
Reply:With my credit card? Oh, unless the guy is cheap and says it's "only temporary" - cause then it's ok to fix Last edited by MinnesotaDave; 05-21-2014 at 10:14 AM.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:I'd replace it, caliper bracket mount on the front end isn't something I'd want to fail again. On the rear I'd think about fixing it but they're cheap enough to replace on the front.
Reply:look at the eutectic line of braising rods,high strength medium temp range.it's all about prep ,pre- and post heat ..so sweat.. read the color of the iron thou out the process.face all times with a positive mental attitude,then and only then will you have done your best.
Reply:ps , drill in a pin fit set up before you procede with beveling, so you'll entomb a few pins.face all times with a positive mental attitude,then and only then will you have done your best.
Reply:Looks like a pontiac. Agreed. It isnt a rear end pig, its a brake caliper. Some parts on a car you just dont fix.
Reply:And its not the caliper bracket mount, its the whole front spindle he would be replacing. Junkyard would be cheaper than the parts stores.
Reply:Too much liability for me.
Reply:JB Weld the p!ss out of it and pray like a preacher that got caught cheating on his wife! GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:NEW/USED one is my vote... although if it was for my own vehicle I would braze it... trouble with Ni rod is the cost to fix is probably more than that of the part bought used... of course if you wanted to try it you can take what you learned and apply to something else broke.. in that case Ni rod and TIG it.TOOLS AND TOYSSMAW Mid States Inc. "MISSING LINK" 10-150 AMP Buzzer circa 1945ishSMAW Magic Wand 40-60 AMP Suitcase Buzzer circa 1939ishGMAW Hobart 210 IronmanOxy-Propane TorchMany other old and cold goodies"Rusty but Trusty"
Reply:I am willing to bet that is steel, either cast or forged. Not cast iron. But I dont do much automotive work, I could be wrong.Ductile iron seems to be a possibility too.
Reply:The correct answer is to NOT fuch with it...I said NO and that was that.I am not going to be "IT".Thanks for playing.......zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Speaking as an automotive mechanic, no broken "structural" or load bearing components of the brake foundation system should ever be repaired, replacement only with new or sound used parts.I am pretty sure that it is a violation of FMVSS rules/standards to weld repair any brake system components and then operate the vehicle on public roads.As to off road situations/venues, that would probably be up to the individual owner if operating on private land, or the sanctioning authority rules if in a competition type venue.I doubt any sanctioning authority approves weld repaired brake system components, would seem like assuming too much liability if failure occurred resulting in injuries or fatalities.There are time when a part SHOULD NOT be welded, even if it can be welded.
Reply:Originally Posted by walkerweldSpeaking as an automotive mechanic, no broken "structural" or load bearing components of the brake foundation system should ever be repaired, replacement only with new or sound used parts.I am pretty sure that it is a violation of FMVSS rules/standards to weld repaiir any brake system components and then operate the vehicle on public roads.As to off road situations/venues, that would probably be up to the individual owner if operating on private land, or the sanctioning authority rules if in a competition type venue.I doubt any sanctioning authority approves weld repaired brake system components, would seem like assuming too much liability if failure occurred resulting in injuries or fatalities.There are time when a part SHOULD NOT be welded, even if it can be welded.
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterOK guys and gals..How would you repair this broken ear?Correct answer later....zap!
Reply:I often see that if done properly, right rod, procedure, pre and post heat etc., that a repair can be as good or better than a new part.  Is that not the case here or is there just not a prescribe procedure?
Reply:Originally Posted by Fast LeroyI often see that if done properly, right rod, procedure, pre and post heat etc., that a repair can be as good or better than a new part.  Is that not the case here or is there just not a prescribe procedure?
Reply:Yea yea yea, I got that, it should not be repaired.  My question is not if it should be repaired, my question is that given the correct repair procedure, could the repair ever be as strong than a new part?
Reply:Originally Posted by Fast LeroyYea yea yea, I got that, it should not be repaired.  My question is not if it should be repaired, my question is that given the correct repair procedure, could the repair ever be as strong than a new part?
Reply:Not saying a repair like this is for everyone to attempt, but if done correctly why would one worry about his own work? On a customers car definitely not, buy new/used. Reminds me of an old welder friend of mine, G.E. had a electric motor with lousy lift points given where the motor was located. He asked if they could come up with a procedure to weld on lifting ears, they said "it is impossible to weld to the motor structure, we have tried and nothing holds." A bit of leg work on his part on he figured it out..... that procedure is now standard on that specific G.E. electric motor... but as was mentioned before be careful on what you weld...... many a aluminum rim I have welded, never a failure.. they have outlasted the car... just saying,, not my intent to step on anyone.OH. P.S. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY ADVISING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL OR UNSAFE IN ANY MANNER.Last edited by MISSING LINK; 05-21-2014 at 02:47 PM.TOOLS AND TOYSSMAW Mid States Inc. "MISSING LINK" 10-150 AMP Buzzer circa 1945ishSMAW Magic Wand 40-60 AMP Suitcase Buzzer circa 1939ishGMAW Hobart 210 IronmanOxy-Propane TorchMany other old and cold goodies"Rusty but Trusty"
Reply:Originally Posted by 12V71I am willing to bet that is steel, either cast or forged. Not cast iron. But I dont do much automotive work, I could be wrong.Ductile iron seems to be a possibility too.
Reply:Originally Posted by Fast LeroyYea yea yea, I got that, it should not be repaired.  My question is not if it should be repaired, my question is that given the correct repair procedure, could the repair ever be as strong than a new part?
Reply:Originally Posted by WTFnOObNo. Not on cast iron, especially used, multiple uncontrolled heat cycled cast iron. It broke for a reason. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJunkyard parts and new bearings gotta be cheaper than spending chop time on it anyway.
Reply:Originally Posted by walkerweldSpeaking as an automotive mechanic, no broken "structural" or load bearing components of the brake foundation system should ever be repaired, replacement only with new or sound used parts.I am pretty sure that it is a violation of FMVSS rules/standards to weld repair any brake system components and then operate the vehicle on public roads.As to off road situations/venues, that would probably be up to the individual owner if operating on private land, or the sanctioning authority rules if in a competition type venue.I doubt any sanctioning authority approves weld repaired brake system components, would seem like assuming too much liability if failure occurred resulting in injuries or fatalities.There are time when a part SHOULD NOT be welded, even if it can be welded.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcI bet "Sean" or "Mr. TIG" could have fixed it, ya bunch of sissies!!!
Reply:That looks like it's off either a Hyundai Santa Fe or a Sonata.Miller Syncrowave 180Miller 211 w/ spool-gunLincoln Ac/Dc buzzboxCutmaster 38 plasmaVictor,Smith's,and Craftsman (Harris) O/A torches.DeWalt Multi cutterFiber Metal helmets(old school)Enough Snap-On to be a dealer
Reply:I'd give her a few more strategic bashes with the hammer before I pitched it, just to make sure some scholar doesn't get any bright ideasExperience is something you get right after you need it
Reply:As my previous service manager said when he was told, HE was allowing,unqualified kids to work on brake systems when they really had no idea how they actually work. They're only brakes!This was a guy with many years as a douche b... I mean service manager. As long as he could pay them less and there weren't many complaints, he didn't care. He has bought multiple engines however.Millermatic 135Craftsman 7 Hp 80 Gallon           2 stage compressor
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcI bet "Sean" or "Mr. TIG" could have fixed it, ya bunch of sissies!!!
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterOK guys and gals..How would you repair this broken ear?Attachment 723461Attachment 723471Correct answer later....zap!
Reply:Never mind, I read the answer and now I think you should just send IT to Rembrandt for for iMBELISHMENT. Caps not intended.Last edited by Insaneride; 05-21-2014 at 11:02 PM.Reason: rambrandt
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749With his eyes closed, while eating a turkey sandwich.... Get it right man!
Reply:The silly thing is parts like that are always available through the dealer and sometimes they aren't even that expensive.  I would expect that part to cost around $250-350 and that ain't that bad because if you replace it yourself that is all it will cost.  Well throw another $100 for the alignment afterwards.
Reply:Originally Posted by rlitmanBut to the point: can a cast steel (or cast iron for that matter) ear be built up and repaired.  Sure.  Should THAT ear be repaired.  No effen way.
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmI like this answer the best.
Reply:Let's fix it at Tig Clinic.  Then sell it on eBay for
Reply:Originally Posted by Drf255Let's fix it at Tig Clinic.  Then sell it on eBay for
Reply:not many positives here,it can be done easily if you have experience with cast,few do..in the case that it would be your first time,i'd say replace it.but fix it anyway for the experience.welding cast is an art..gotta start somewhere..face all times with a positive mental attitude,then and only then will you have done your best.
Reply:Originally Posted by iron mikenot many positives here,it can be done easily if you have experience with cast,few do..in the case that it would be your first time,i'd say replace it.but fix it anyway for the experience.welding cast is an art..gotta start somewhere..
Reply:Originally Posted by 76GMC1500Always charge more than the new part just to give them the hint.