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hey guys so for the past several months ibeen in a welding class and i got a C on it would it affect my welding employment in the futureAngel
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Reply:They wanna see certs not grades, and certs are pass or fail. A c is a fail.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:@welder mike so do u think that i wont get employed in the futureAngel
Reply:What kinda class are we talking about? Is is just some highschool shop class? Or a local evenings thing?Or a collage/trade school program.Need more info here.
Reply:I think Mike possibly meant that if you had an A and busted the test for Cert.  It would be a fail.  "C"  in your class yet pass the Cert test, you succeed.    Takes the personalities out of it.  Totally performance.jerry30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:@ canadian college class for welding introductionAngel
Reply:Originally Posted by arocha49@ canadian college class for welding introduction
Reply:Hello arocha49, here's a take of mine that you can consider. I teach at a community college, often I have students who are "very" concerned about their letter grades. Although, from the educational system/state legislature standpoint these grades are important, I have a different opinion. What you learn, master, and take away from an educational/instructional/vocational class is what matters. Grades are often very miss-representative of the true learning that has taken place for a student, many students test very poorly and yet they do know content and are very physically capable and the opposite can also be true, they might receive a good grade un-deservingly(possibly they copied other's work, etc).There are also a lot of factors to consider when you look at a grade. How much effort was put forth by the student? How comprehensive was the content and hands-on instruction available in the class? How well were the facilities equipped and did the instructional staff know all that was needed to know about that equipment? How competent and forthright was/were the instructor/instructors with providing and sharing training, theory, and instruction? How well did the student listen.The true value of your classes and the associated grades will be determined by the individual(s) that is/are assessing your capabilities and skills(I am referring to potential employers here). They may be strictly concerned with how you speak, present yourself, work, perform, etc. or they may give a lot of value to your ability to show follow through by possibly possessing a degree, certificate, certification, or other official form of educational verification. These things can vary a lot with geographical location, types of companies, etc. In short, for some those things will matter, for others they will not, again referring to potential employers. You are the one to decide whether they are important to you and whether you feel that they are worthwhile and to what extent you wish to pursue them. Good luck to you and best regards, AllanLast edited by aevald; 05-27-2014 at 08:39 PM.aevald
Reply:no sir only ran beads on 7018 6010 6013 7024 and  did tig and and mig and oxyfuelAngel
Reply:Totally an intro.  Now get into the various classes they offer on welding if you are interested in it as a possible career or serious hobby.  At 70 years old I'm in a night class 4 days a week, 4 hours per day because I WANT to learn.  Not seeking grades, just skills.Jerry30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:A lot is also going to depend on what sort of job you are looking for. A basic intro class isn't going to get you a high paying job most likely. However it might land you a basic production job mig welding dumpsters or repetitively sticking parts together. That entry level job might not be the greatest, but it might be a stepping stone to something else..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:@DSW in spring of 2015 im going to take  advance stick and mig then get my certsAngel
Reply:Most welding programs are competency based which means evaluation is based on being able to perform above a minimum level.  Traditional school systems love percentages or lettergrades so welding schools adapt.  Locally the knowledge part ( theory) you must score at least 70 %.  If you fail a module test and score 60 % then when you do your makeup test you must score 80 % in order to average 70%.  It discourages people who always miss or fail the first test and habitually want to do a makeup.  The actual weld exercises are 3/3 for excellent,  2/3 for pass and below the 2 score you have to go back and repeat.   The "C" you have is based some cloud floating around in the academic sky.  What really matters is if you can pass your bend tests and if you know enough safety and weld theory to function day to day once you enter the working world.  Teachers can skew letter grades up and down for a variety of reasons so letter grades are highly suspect unless each letter describes a specific set of learning outcomes.   There are people who fail to complete a welding course but have picked up enough to get a job and keep it.
Reply:There was a little form above each instructors bench in my old weld school.A = 1st ClassB = 2nd ClassC = 3rd ClassD = FailF = Learn HVAC insteadNow that doesn't mean anything. It was just a joke.However. Specifically speaking. Your letter grade doesn't mean a thing. In my graduating class, 3 of us has an A average, or 4.0. One of us is actually training to become an instructor. I'm still welding, because I like to do it (for now). The other guy is making twice as much as me on the road because he can. There's a guy who couldn't weld if I held his hand... but he's working for BAE making what... 18-19$ an hour. Which in today's economy, isn't bad at all. So the short answer is NO. The grade doesn't matter. More specifically, in a "intro to welding" or "basic welding" or "beginner welding" course... it doesn't mean squat. You may not be picking up on everything as fast as an A student, but remember it's an INTRODUCTION course. Also, the instructor who grades you might be a pretentious a-hole. You never know.Like mike said... what matters is if you pass the test. Certifications are dandy. They look good on a resume. Some places actually REQUIRE you be certified somehow, some way, before they consider hiring you. But they don't even matter. If you are passing weld tests, whatever grade you get does not matter. Granted, for someone like me who is vain, and likes his welds to look beautiful... someone like you who can just "pass the test" is an abomination. Nothing personal. Sounds rude and ridiculous but I take pride in my ability. But that doesn't mean squat to you. If you can pass the test.Are you getting what I'm saying here? Learn how to put down a solid weld. Free of defects and discontinuities. Pass your bend/RT/UT/MP tests and it won't matter what grade you got. Welding isn't based on your academic performance. It isn't based on your GPA (even if places ask your GPA from trade school). It's based on can this son of a gun pass the weld test in the given time with the given parameters. If you can, you will always get a job.
Reply:ok sirAngel
Reply:I had to chuckle.I spent 24 years at a Carrier HVAC factory (that close down last year) and an now in community college welding classes and made an  A. Sent from my Galaxy S3
Reply:employers want to know if you can do the job follow instructions and show up. they dont care about an average grade, its an intro course consider it as such and expand on your knowledge. if you are looking for a job find a place that will teach you something new everytime you clock in. i made the mistake of being stuck in a production shop for the last 4 years straight out of school.if you can step across it I can weld it.