Slip Rollers question

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So I'm getting ready to obtain a brand new slip Roll...aprox 48-50" width and 16 gauge capasity.I would love to find an American made Tennsmith, but JET offers the same thing for $1,000+ less. I know its made in China and all, but is there anything significantly different or less in the 16ga JET roller?If anybody knows anything about sheet rolling equipment I'd love to know if I'll go wrong with the JET?
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Reply:I find that on newer sheet forming equipment there is no reserve like the good old days.  If the machine says 16 gauge that is its limit.  Not wise to fudge in a piece of 14 unless it is very narrow.    I am regularly running an old pinch roll machine that can roll 1/4 inch sheet six feet wide on a good day.    If you look after the machine the Jet should be OK.  Have you run a set of rolls before??  Big or small is not a great deal of difference other than when you screw up:')))
Reply:I have a 36" 22 ga tennsmith, and while it is sturdy, it aint no mack truck. It will roll thicker stuff, but it doesnt like it.The Jet 50" roll weighs about 500lbs, while the Tennsmith weighs 775. So my guess is yep, you are getting less mass, thinner parts, and less meat where it counts. But the Jet will do the job, if you dont overload it. Dont expect to run 1 foot wide pieces of 1/8", though, or even 14 ga. It says 16 ga, and it means 16 ga.The Jet is around $1800, while the tennsmith is over 3 grand- ouch!Big price jump between 36" and 48"- but the weight doubles or triples.Check for used, at that price- go to this page, there are several 4 footers for sale, around the country- mostly powered, but lots cheaper than new.http://www.machinetools.com/MT/machi...2410&lvt=groupYou also might want to look at the Turkish rolls- I have a set of powered 12 ga x 48" turkish rolls that are pretty darn tough. I like em, think they are much better than the chinese stuff, while a lot cheaper than made in USA.Knuth sells manual versions of my turkish roll- a 48" x 16ga is $2500 from them- www.knuth-usa.com click on sheet metal working, then plate rollers, then go to the bottom of the page.
Reply:Wow! Thank you for the input and advice. You guys are really helpful. Much appreciated… especially the web sites! Great resource. I’m looking into a Knuth. It looks like I could pick one up in Chicago, and I’m close enough to pick it right up. I’m just trying to figure what will meet my projected needs best. I’m looking at either a manual 41” (16ga) or a 49” (16ga)… I also wonder about stepping up to a 41”(11ga) capacity? One reason being I’m looking into a few stainless sheet projects. Would any of you recommend potential ability in the 11ga, about 400 lbs more machine, for about 700 more bucks?… Whooo, I don’t know might be more machine then what I’ll need or use. Anyway. Thank you all for the excellent information. This is a great site and a **** of a great group of guys.
Reply:Stainless is hard stuff.A roll rated for 16 ga is gonna blink and stutter if you try to feed it 16 ga stainless- the general rule is downgrade at least 2 gages- so 18 ga stainless for a 16 ga roll.I like being able to roll and bend 4 feet, because thats the width full sheets come. But if you are mostly doing smaller stuff, you definitely save by going to a narrower roll.I have a 4' wide 12 ga set of the powered turkish rolls- I got em from these guys-http://www.coletuve.com/And I like em. We roll narrower pieces of 1/8" stainless with em, and even the occasional piece of 3/16" stainless, so they are pretty well built.I would have prefered american made, but they were 3 times the price- a new Bertsch 4' x 12 gage was over 12 grand new.Really, it all depends on exactly what gage you are rolling, how wide, and how often.
Reply:Originally Posted by blacksmith20Wow! Thank you for the input and advice. You guys are really helpful. Much appreciated… especially the web sites! Great resource. I’m looking into a Knuth. It looks like I could pick one up in Chicago, and I’m close enough to pick it right up. I’m just trying to figure what will meet my projected needs best. I’m looking at either a manual 41” (16ga) or a 49” (16ga)… I also wonder about stepping up to a 41”(11ga) capacity?