whats a good downhill rod?

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What rod should i use if i want to weld downhill? Tried using 7018, but the slag kept falling out and messing with my arc and puddle. Any suggestions?Ranger 305gMillermatic 140 AutosetDewalt Chopsaw2 grindersMy Fists
Reply:Originally Posted by bp626indamixWhat rod should i use if i want to weld downhill? Tried using 7018, but the slag kept falling out and messing with my arc and puddle. Any suggestions?
Reply:Is there an electrode designed specifically for downhill?Ranger 305gMillermatic 140 AutosetDewalt Chopsaw2 grindersMy Fists
Reply:E-xx4x
Reply:Are you talking sheet metal or pipe?
Reply:I do both. So either would be good.Ranger 305gMillermatic 140 AutosetDewalt Chopsaw2 grindersMy Fists
Reply:6010 or 6011(ac/dc version of 6010)
Reply:I've been welding for almost 40 years and I've never heard of a 6014. 6010 is the standard for downhill.JohnA few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Why would you ever go downhill on pipe? My instructor said you always weld UPhill.
Reply:Downhill pipe welding is done on xcountry pipe jobs where speed is of the job is critical.Uphill pipe welding is done in plant or in house.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:If your practicing downhill on pipe start with 6010 5p or 6010 5p+. I prefer 5p+ for my stringer and then use it for the hotpass,fillers,and cap. After you master this rod try running 5p+ for your root and then 8010g (70+) for your hotpass,filler,and cap. 70+ welds very similar to 6010 and is the rod of choice for pipeline and compressor station work.  After you master the 5p+& 8010, try using 7010g or 7010hyp for your fill and caps. This rod is also a common rod used for downhill pipe welding. Hope that helps. Always remember a GOOD welder can weld uphill,downhill,sideways,crammed up in a ditch or piperack. Try to challenge yourself after you fell confident with booth welding. Also tig is worth it weight in gold. Learn it as well.
Reply:6010, but if your good and set the joint up right 7014 is faster than MIG doing sheets and properly prepped joints on thin stuff.Disclaimer; "I am just an a$$hole welder, don't take it personally ."
Reply:Originally Posted by slim83If your practicing downhill on pipe start with 6010 5p or 6010 5p+. I prefer 5p+ for my stringer and then use it for the hotpass,fillers,and cap. After you master this rod try running 5p+ for your root and then 8010g (70+) for your hotpass,filler,and cap. 70+ welds very similar to 6010 and is the rod of choice for pipeline and compressor station work.  After you master the 5p+& 8010, try using 7010g or 7010hyp for your fill and caps. This rod is also a common rod used for downhill pipe welding.
Reply:To my knowledge downhill (downhand) is prohibited on structure. But for pipe welding procedure can be uphill or downhill depending on the wps specified to the project. I've been on jobs where both downhill and uphill were required for different process pipe. 7018 should not be ran downhill at any time on coded items. And yes Kevin you can stack iron just as fast or even faster with 7010 and or 8010 by using bigger electrode diameter such as 3/16 or 5mm. It takes alot if practice to learn downhill just like it does with uphill. Pipeline is welded downhill for speed and productivity.
Reply:I prefer 6010 downhill for my roots, but I rarely do code-work.Any xx10 rod can be run down hand. 6013 has thicker slag than 7018, youd have be desperate to try that...6011 is an alternative for the AC crowd.Lincoln Power MIG 210 MP ( boat anchor )Lincoln Weld-Pac 100 HDHobart IronMan 230Cutmaster 42Jackson NexGenSumner Ultra ClampsDWM120
Reply:6011 works real good on dc. I'm out of 6010 at the moment. And brush up on uphill, it's just like downhill, only totally different.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Thanks, Slim83.
Reply:Start off with a small 6010 ..... Like a 1/8 ...just to get a fill for running downhill. Also try running some vertical down t joints then break the joint and see if you penetrated the corner then move on to some butts or pipe. I run 6010 5p 7/32 downhill all day every day .....no problemo....
Reply:Originally Posted by KelvinInteresting. So I guess 7010 and 8010 are fast freeze rods like 6010? Would 7010 be easier to run downhill than 7018?Does it take more passes with 7010 to fill than with a fast-fill rod like 7018?I never tried running downhill. I got the impression from my instructor that it wasn't code-acceptable (or at least impossible to get a good weld without defects) on structural stuff, ever. I guess I was wrong in that impression...? (Instructor never said "Don't weld uphill" ... he just said, "Always build up."
Reply:change one number and find a E7048 if its too hard. iv heard that the 7018  (where 1 means all positions) is not best for downhill and the 4 in 7048 means downhill..or mig itTurn 'em and Burn 'em
Reply:Originally Posted by dieselwelderStart off with a small 6010 ..... Like a 1/8 ...just to get a fill for running downhill. Also try running some vertical down t joints then break the joint and see if you penetrated the corner then move on to some butts or pipe. I run 6010 5p 7/32 downhill all day every day .....no problemo....
Reply:I worked in the recycling industry for a short period of time welding a lot of 1/8 steel and smaller. If you run hot and move quickly with a side to side movement you can down hand 7018. The slag should fall like candle wax. But, It only works because of the thickness of the parent metal anything structural should be welding vertically.
Reply:If im not mistaken, dieselwelder works as a rigwelder. Runs a diesel powered welder off the back of his truck. Man has knowledge. And skill. Am i correct?Ranger 305gMillermatic 140 AutosetDewalt Chopsaw2 grindersMy Fists