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I'm sure the title will gain some attention......Here is the story........A co-worker of mine is an avid Kayak..... fishing..... and biking type guy.... He's 30.... newly married... with more degrees than I can count........ a smart guy......... and an outdoor adventurer.....He bought a trailer from some guy who had fashioned it to carry a kayak.......Some Tractor Supply type rig with a "custom" Kayak harness on it.....The pluses: The design is solid..... well thought out.... functional......The minus: The welds are the bad..... flux core on top of paint........ and poor penetration.....My job: fix it and make it the way Jason wants it to work..... using the saddles from his Yakima rack.......Nothing structural.... not doing anything to the trailer design......... just putting on a better welded rack.....It will take me a couple Saturdays to get it the way he wants it.... I'll post those pics here when I get it done.....Here are welds I was given to work with last Friday........ Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Fex, ya better lay in a good supply of grinder discs or else get a good scarfing tip for the torch!! Was the previous weldor legally blind? MikeOl' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:Wow,nice welds
Reply:Oh wow. My trailer made it to Texas. Just kidding. You'll get that fixed up nicely. Can't wait for pics. Keep track of your time, apply it to the next job, and get paid properly.-AaronJet 17.5" Drill Press1942 South Bend 16x84 Lathe1980s Miller 320A / BP --- 2013 Power Mig 2562012 Jet 7x12 Horizontal BandsawVictor O/A Setup
Reply:Welds look like what came on my tractor loader! Yikes...Dave J.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Ummmm...... I m at a loss for wordsMiller bobcat 225g - spoolmatic 1Mm250 - 30a spoolMiller spectrum 375Thermal arc 95 Everlast Ex 250As the boiler turns, these are the days of our lives
Reply:Holy mother of F#£!!!!! Now that looks like some fine camel cottage cheese snot with worms!!!! I had a very similar request nd fix for my friends's trailer!!!! How much you wanna bet the two trailers came from the same mentally unstable booger welder??? What's nice for you and me as far as I can tell, the grinding down of those pigeon-poop beauties was/is really easy and fast. I ground down a nice groove, just like a dentist working on a walrus' tusk. Some ER70s-6 and the new beads worked beautifully. Don't look at those booger welds as "welds." Instead, look at them as if someone just tacked up that rack for you. ....they just went a little nuts on the "tacking." Lincoln Power Mig 216Lincoln AC/DC-225/125Miller 625 X-Treme PlasmaMiller 211 Forney 95FI-A 301HF 91110Victor Journeyman O/PMilwaukee DaytonMakita Baileigh NRA Life Member
Reply:so where are the welds. all i see are pigeon droppings..
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcHoly mother of F#£!!!!! Now that looks like some fine camel cottage cheese snot with worms!!!! I had a very similar request nd fix for my friends's trailer!!!! How much you wanna bet the two trailers came from the same mentally unstable booger welder??? What's nice for you and me as far as I can tell, the grinding down of those pigeon-poop beauties was/is really easy and fast. I ground down a nice groove, just like a dentist working on a walrus' tusk. Some ER70s-6 and the new beads worked beautifully. Don't look at those booger welds as "welds." Instead, look at them as if someone just tacked up that rack for you. ....they just went a little nuts on the "tacking."
Reply:Finally! a trailer repair thread that doesn't make my heart stop when I see who the OP is. Fex, you got this.honestly surprised that rack is still on the trailer. as those plops couldn't be more than a couple tacks here and there. Keep the pictures coming.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:Those little trailers are bolted together. You might as well weld the pieces together to make it one solid trailer. I've had to do several for people as the bolts are crap and the little trailers just start to come apart.Your more than welcome to come use the shop and do it here if you don't have the room. I will be out of the shop for any big jobs as I have 3 buildings in a row to do. I'm only about 25 miles from Austin.
Reply:Originally Posted by mla2ofusFex, ya better lay in a good supply of grinder discs or else get a good scarfing tip for the torch!! Was the previous weldor legally blind? Mike
Reply:Thanks for the reminder, I've got to pick up a movie on the way home...You're gonna have some awesome grinder skills!! When a welder tells you to "stick it", what do they really mean?"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Reply:Originally Posted by kiwiNo he was not blind....he just was not a Weldor. Nick
Reply:Lol, how bout them uphill welds. dingle berries everywhere.
Reply:that must be the traier that transports the kayaks to s**t creeck without the paddles. It's scary, tailers don't get any inspection at all in Ca, you just apply for a license. We run a rec area and rebuild trailers a lot that make it here and instantly disengrate into their basic elements.
Reply:Originally Posted by anickodeProbably some joe blow who wanted a welder for hobby work, and figured he'd pay for it doing side jobs. I've seen that many times. Those look like solid wire to me... Not flux core. Perhaps done with no gas...?
Reply:Originally Posted by kiwiNo he was not blind....he just was not a Weldor. Nick
Reply:That could be used for a welding commercial, A LITTLE DAB WILL DO !
Reply:I believe they call that stacking chicken **** with chopsticks.Miller BobcatHarris cutting outfitMiller spectrum 625 plasmaVariety of shopmade tools
Reply:Hey! Thats a $250 fleet farm trailer that comes in a box! I have one that I bought just for bolting down a dedicated trash pump and all its components.That entire trailer is pretty much assembled with 1/4" bolts.
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTHey! Thats a $250 fleet farm trailer that comes in a box! I have one that I bought just for bolting down a dedicated trash pump and all its components.That entire trailer is pretty much assembled with 1/4" bolts.
Reply:Originally Posted by WelderBillLMAO!.. Too funny SuperArc.Was this the first time the guy ever welded ?.. They look like welds from one of my friends.Nothing that a grinder can't fix!.. Fexal, Lookin' forward to seeing some "nice welds" on the trailer!
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Reply:Nice one, Kolot! Maybe we could test that rack by tying the weldor to his own creation and driving him around. Then we will see how confident he is in his abilities..."The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson If the Lights are a Flashin', STAY OFF the tracks!!! It might be me at the Throttle...Thanks for posting those pics. Those make me look like a super hero (on my worst day) under a hood. If I were you I think I would do him a favor and clean them up a bit too. Just so as you can sleep good at night.Miller thunderbolt 250Decastar 135ERecovering tool-o-holic ESAB OAI have been interested or involved in Electrical, Fire Alarm, Auto, Marine, Welding, Electronics ETC to name a just a few. So YES you can own too many tools.
Reply:Starting last night..... and all day today........ I got the chance to get deeper into this thing.......I took a bunch of pics.... and some video (still editing)........ so the next few posts might be pic heavy....Ok..... first..... I starting taking apart the uprights.... the Kayak holding parts that the guy welded together.....First... the good part........ both front and back were exactly alike... this means the "fabricator", while not a welder...... did have a good eye on measurement... since both pieces were identical....Second.... the bad part....... This metal is 3/32 (13 gauge) with the rust.... it is actually 14 gauge steel all cleaned up......... and there was not a single piece that had any penetration..... not a single piece...Here are a couple pics to show you what I mean....... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:So.... last night.... I pulled the little trailer into the garage so that I could take the wood top off.......The thing is so small that I suddenly felt like I had a large "shop" to work in......Then today...... Ava did me a huge favor by waking up at 7:30am (she usually waits until 9:30 on Saturday.... my only day to work in the garage..... I was grateful today)...... I was able to get started nice and early........I was grinding away before my neighbors knew what hit them........Notice the ease of removal of the bad welds.......I spent lots of time grinding the welds down though......PICS....... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:After I got all of the sockets off of the trailer..... you know.... the parts that the uprights fit into...... I cleaned them up..... and decided to put bases on them so that it would be easier to put the new uprights into them by one person......I found some scrap that was larger than the "sockets"......I used it an opportunity to dial in my settings.... since i knew I was grinding these down anyway......3/32" filler at 100 amps with about half peddle seemed about right..... eventually......PICS...... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:I love my HF trailer. I have towed many a things many a thousands of miles with it. But it flexes like crazy, and I need to weld it all up. That might be a new project.. hmmmmmm......Millermatic 211PowerPlasma 50s
Reply:Next..... I was ready to put the "sockets" on the trailer....I measured each side and marked the spots with a sharpie.......I started tacking..... and then realized that I could smell paint fumes....Mask.....PICS...... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Silly question, but you did drill drain holes in the plates you welded on right?While tig practice is great, once you ground down those welds, you really don't have much weld left to hold the plates in with. You'd have been much better off if the plates had been cut to fit inside or at least to match the size of the tube..No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:The last few pics before I start editing video.....LOTS of Vertical up....... and then eventually I realized I could stand this thing up and weld right to left............... right in front of me......Geeze..... live and learn......I should have removed more paint........Pics of my Vertical Ups..... Attached ImagesPrecision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Your base plates were to big to begin with they should fit the sockets and make a corner joint weld you grinded all your fillet welds off?TO INVENT YOU NEED A GOOD IMAGINATION AND A PILE OF JUNK'' - THOMAS EDISONMost Of The Time People Don't see The Quality of a Good Job Unitl they see a Bad Job !! -Scott Esplin
Reply:Originally Posted by DSWSilly question, but you did drill drain holes in the plates you welded on right?While tig practice is great, once you ground down those welds, you really don't have much weld left to hold the plates in with. You'd have been much better off if the plates had been cut to fit inside or at least to match the size of the tube.
Reply:Time to break out rotational cutting device and install moisture removal opening. Or in Texas drill a hole in bottom to get water out.
Reply:Originally Posted by T E BYour base plates were to big to begin with they should fit the sockets and make a corner joint weld you grinded all your fillet welds off?
Reply:I mostly did it as a test to see how my penetration was........I knew I would grinding them off...... yes but if you do your fit up you don't grind off your stack of dimes weldsTO INVENT YOU NEED A GOOD IMAGINATION AND A PILE OF JUNK'' - THOMAS EDISONMost Of The Time People Don't see The Quality of a Good Job Unitl they see a Bad Job !! -Scott Esplin
Reply:And.... the video of today....Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:your videos get blocked??TO INVENT YOU NEED A GOOD IMAGINATION AND A PILE OF JUNK'' - THOMAS EDISONMost Of The Time People Don't see The Quality of a Good Job Unitl they see a Bad Job !! -Scott Esplin
Reply:Some of those welds have fish eyes in them and doesn't look like you put enough filler metal in. More concave then a flush 45° fillet weld. Long as it does the job your buddy wants. That's all that matter's.Melt-n-Metal
Reply:Who's Warner Chappell and what country is he from and why did he block your video fex ?Your way more industrious than me i would have mig welded itBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Sorry Fex, Warner/Chappell music blocked your video on copyright grounds. Just another case of "Big Brother" watching.... Hope they enjoyed your welding tutorial!"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson If the Lights are a Flashin', STAY OFF the tracks!!! It might be me at the Throttle...
Reply:Marked improvement over the original.City of L.A. Structural; Manual & Semi-Automatic;"Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place where gold is refined. Iron is taken from the earth, and copper is smelted from ore."Job 28:1,2Lincoln, Miller, Victor & ISV BibleDanny
Reply:Fexal,The trailer is already looking ''much better''!... I'm sure the guy that owns the trailer now will be very happy when you get it finished! This picture is funny to look at!Remember what your ''signature'' says:''Never weld more in the morning than you can grind off in the afternoon''.On this trailer repair... I'm sure you're using the grinder more than you are welding!.. I hate jobs like that!I don't understand why they blocked the YouTube video ? .. Any chance you can try and post another one ?Looking forward to seeing the trailer finished!Last edited by WelderBill; 02-17-2013 at 08:13 AM.Hobart Handler 190Hobart Spool-Gun 100Lincoln 225 ACMiller & Pipeliner HoodDewalt 14" Chopsaw, GrindersHarris O/AVictor TorchCustom Built O/A CartCustom Welding CartHeavy Duty 16 Speed Floor Drill PressPipe-BenderDrill Doctor
Reply:I wonder if the facebook version will work:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151314085347775Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Looks like it is better then before. KIDDING ! Nice job. Do you have a engine hoist ???? Would make it easier to flip and turn. Another new toy required. A engine hoist has many uses for sure. It like another set of hands. Keep up the good work. Hey, where's partner ???? Is she gettin ready to clean up your mess ???
Reply:She was hanging out with my better half yesterday.......... She did make an appearance that I think I edited out.......... Ill have to find it and post it....... She was curious about my respirator. Kinda funny.........Precision TIG 185 and MP 210Bobcat 225NTCutmaster 42O/A tanks.... 2 Argon tanks...... 2 C25 TanksFacebook...... F2 Metal WorksETSY....... https://www.etsy.com/shop/F2MetalWorksF2MetalWorks.com....... http://www.f2metalworks.com/
Reply:Flexal -While you have the trailer torn apart go ahead and do your friend a favor and lay some weld to hold the trailer together. I would hate to have the trailer fall apart with all the work you have put into the carrier. I have a smaller version of the same HF trailer that I use to haul the trash to the end of the driveway,its not a bad trailer for the money but it helped the rigidity greatly when I welded everything together instead of relying on the bolted connections.Andy-------------------------Miller Bobcat 250 / Dynasty 200DXHobart HH 140Hypertherm PowerMax 380Kalamazoo 8C BandsawHowron Bender / Hossfeld #2 Bender
Reply:Almost looked like it was soldered on instead of welded Attached ImagesMaxus Pro-125 MigChicago Electric 90 amp DC flux-coreLincoln Electric AC 225 tombstoneO/A torchM/O mini-torch10 acres of flatland15 acres of holler |
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