Millermatic 130 or lincon pro mig 140.

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So in the hunt for a 110v mig.  I have found a miller 130 and lincon 140 for around the same price. I have read that the new lincons aint much, Nothing bad about the 130 so far. Onley thing I seen is that the lincon has another hear setting than the miller. Ill be doing mostley sheet metal work with some smller stuff mabey some 1/4 on bumpers ext. So what one should I get?  Whats the pros/cons on these welders.
Reply:I have a Lincoln 140T.  It was my first welding power source.  Like it well enough for what it CAN do well (1/8" and less IMO, however, it can be pushed a bit if you do it right).  If I had to do it all over again with what I know now, I would have just bought my MM252 to start with.  That MM252 does everything that 140 will do AND much more (thickness and duty cycle wise).  It is however more of a pain when portability is a requirement and cost quite a bit more.Ever consider a MillerMatic 211 or a Lincoln 180?  I really think you'd appreciate the fact you had a 230V power source.  Both of theses machines have dual voltage (both 110V and 230V input), are portable and will do both the ligther sheetmetal and thicker (1/4") you state you want to be able to much better than the 130 or 140 will.So to end this speel, if I was to do it again, that is buy a small machine, and couldn't afford or didn't want the MM252.  I would go with a MM211 or a Lincoln 180 dual voltage power source and not the MM130 or Lincoln 140.  That way I cover myself for sheet metal thicknesses and plate/shapes up to about 3/8" in thickness.  That 140 or 130 will be outgrown quickly and in the end you'll probably wish you went a little bigger.
Reply:YEP ! Poptm said it all. Save and go for the 110 / 220 volt machine. Buy it once and you will be done.  Of course, once you start you will buy more. I'm a Miller guy   but get your best deal, times are still tough. Good luck !
Reply:I like the Mille,r plus the Lincoln in sn adjustable or tab slope mach. The 130 is adj.  I also like the Miller drive set up better than the Lincoln
Reply:I have found a  lincon 180 for 500 may get it for 400 guy said he dont weld, than a miller 140 im thinking, I love the ideal of the dual input, I have 220 in my shop. Onley reson I was wanting 110 is I live across from the shop and like to work in my yard sometimes. Should I pull the trigger on the lincon?
Reply:Sold my Millermatic 130 to buy the dual voltage 211.  The 130 was a great little machine and fit my needs at one time,  but the 211 is so much more.  Handles sheet metal great and 1/4 inch great also.  The 130 is a little light for metal above 1/8 or so.  The 211 on 230v. is really super.  Only my opinion
Reply:Just done some reserch and the 180 I found is not the dual just stright 220. I don't think I will have the cash to get a dual rig any time soon unless I find one. I got a old tombstone arc for the bigger projects. I have found some 175s stright 180s and a few outher 220s for cheap, Id hate not to get the bigger one for the price.Still trying to get the pros and cons, I do ALOT of sheet metal work, (getting ready to cut the floor out of my s10 and rebulid it) So should I just bite the bullit and get a 220 for a 400-500 keep it at the shop or get a smaller 130/140 rig and be able to take it with me but not have as much power. back to the 140 lincon miller 130 I can get the miller for 250, and the lincon for 300. Could't I just run more than one pass if I need to do bigger?
Reply:So just stumbled across the 135 miller. Love how the heat setting aint A B C D. I seen there in the 400 ranger there a 110. Whats ever ones thoughts on them? I don't think i'll go 220 unless I can get a dual rig and there a lot more costley than what I have. As far as stuff i'll be doing is frame work 1/8th to 1/4 and sheet metal. I have never done any thing bigger than a 1/4 unless it was in welding class. Sorry this has kinda turned in the "what welder should I buy"  I really dont want to spend all the cash I got saved up and not be happy.
Reply:The only problem is that people try to get new prices for old, old machines. Your location makes a difference on price too. One guy will try to get 500.00 for a 8 year old 135 when you could get a newer 140 miller for the same price. It's just a matter of how long it takes to find one. Did you price new machines local ???? Check craigs list ?
Reply:Im still on the hunt for a mig,i'm looking at welders for 3days, I found some on cl. Instide of me listing 400 welders I'll take some suggestions on what one I should get, I don't really mind waiting to get one as I have my 220 arc and my bro has a 135 lincon I can get any time. I'm looking for a rig to do 1/4" to thin sheet metal.I'd LOVE a dual rig but unless a lincon or miller falls outa the sky I don't think ill be getting one. I don't want the A B C D heat setting I want it to be able to go inbetween. I have 220 in the shop thats no problem, but I would love to be able to take it with me or w/e, I can make a cord to run from my ac out let or dryer out let to work in my yard. Allso has any body had any problems with the newer lincons. I have read something about the drive rollers?
Reply:Frogot to add, Is 250 a good price on the 110V millermatic 130? I seen on ebay that there going for 350 and up, but thats not so smart ebay ppl.lol
Reply:allso found a 220v 140 miller for 420 shipped to my door. I hate makeing these choices, So wish I was rich and could just get a 211 or 180 dual
Reply:Any 120V machine is going to be at its limits with 1/8", and on stuff like a T joint you're going to need to break out the torch to get some preheat on the base material. INo way in the world I'd try to do 1/4" on a 120V machine. You're looking at something with at least 180-190 amps AND multiple passes at that range. You'd need over 200 A or so to make a clean single pass on 1/4", and even then you're geometry/joint dependent. My advice, if you want a new 120V machine, get a Hobart 140 - welds great, with a nice soft arc. The taps are not an issue in the slightest IMO, as the range is not huge. Just keep in mind that once you get over 1/8", you need to be using something else. It works superb for sheet metal.Get a 240V machine if you want to do thicker than 1/8".
Reply:Welp ended up buying a clarke 130 today, Got to thinking I got my 220 buzzbox for the big stuff. It will work for now for sheetmetal, Im going next week to get a bottle.I really like how the clarke does compared to my brothers lincon 135. Seems like it burns hotter.
Reply:I'm went throught the exact same process. I'm really happy with the HH140, and it does just fine on 1/8" and down with solid wire. I find it really handy to tack with the mig when I'm doing tig.Tractor Supply recently had the HH140 for $479, but both sides of the drive roll are .030.Run a dedicated 20A circuit to get the most out of it.Lincoln AC/DC 225/125 and WP17. 75A AC is for pipe thawing!HH 140 - new addtion 9/2012.I didn't agree, but hoped for Hope and Change.I got change for myself and my family: for the worse.This is the reality of: Barackalypse Now. Again.
Reply:Been playing with the clarke today, really for the hole 125 bucks I got in it I love it....No way does it compare to a nice miller 220 but for what I got in the little thing it welds awsome, been playing with some scrap 1/8th plate runs a very nice bead for its size, Im runing at 3 heat and 4 or 5 on my wire speed with some us forge .35 wire. Allso done some tacking small stuff on my mini truck project.