Dock Stand..

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I knew it was just a matter of time..When I built my dock frame years ago I used lalycolumns going thru a bored piece of tube welded to the side of the frame so I could adjust it when the water level got too hi or too low..Easy enough..Drag the dock in the water..Jack it up..Put in the columns and bolt them where needed...Reverse order in the fall and take the dock out.Was OK for a few years but for a one man operation getting it in and out of the water for summer/winter...Well it's way too heavy the way it is.The columns rusted to the tube and after that there was no getting them apart so I just left it all in the water and let the ice do it's damage..This is how it looks right now..So yesterday we had the day off so I went to the shop with a plan in my head and in 3 hrs this is what I came up with..I made it so I can adjust the height when the water level gets a little higher in the summer months..The new dam on the other side of the lake keeps the water level on my "Beach" between 18" and 24" so all I need is my jack to put the height where I want it..Note the 2 places where the stainless tube goes..All I need to do is drill and bolt it where it needs to be on both sides...Is it my "Best Work"?Hell no.Is it going to be useful?Hell yes!My boss showed me some aluminum I could take for free so that's all I had to work with..But with 3 hrs total time involved and nothing on paper..it came together rather fast..And for something that will be underwater all the time who cares!Don't worry if you think it's not sturdy enough..We don't have crashing waves or anything like that here..Nice and quiet and most days the water looks like a mirror anyway..But in the mean time I have to let the water warm up a bit before I go in and pull the 'ol remove and replace..Now I have 3 yards of mulch to spread around..I get all the fun jobs.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:common Zap, jump in and set it up.  Don't worry about the shrinkage, you'll recover.   Bobp.s.    No pictures required!!!
Reply:Nice work, but.........more pics of the lake, please. Do you fish? If so, I'll pack up the Lund and get on my way."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Why didn't you do a floating style dock instead...self adjusting for water levelBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Now we have to wait for nice weather to see it in action? What a tease. Don't you have a set of chest waders?
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manNice work, but.........more pics of the lake, please. Do you fish? If so, I'll pack up the Lund and get on my way.
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterNope just rubber boots that are not high enough.....zap!
Reply:Originally Posted by CraboThose are needed on this forum sometimes.
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Reply:Our work docks, all stainless, adjustable.Have been working great!
Reply:I just took you lake tour cruise again, Zap. I was surprised that it was back in '08 when it was posted. I would love to live on a lake like that. I would spend all my spare time with a rod and reel.I just thought it was dry when I replied to that post. It's official now that we are the driest area in the US now. Been all over the news for the last week.
Reply:I went out this AM to evaluate what I need to do and saw these 2 MONSTERS at the end of my dock..Largemouth Bass..Must weigh 2-3 LBS each!They are making a nest for the eggs so I won't disturb them for awhile.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:I design and build huge marinas.  What you made looks great, depending on water fluctuation. For do it yourselfers MERCO Marine sells corners, pipe leg holders etc.   My designs have to handle 80' of seasonal water flucuation, so they are freefloating with anchors that have to be lifted and moved weekly. My largest marina has 6-2 ton anchors and shore chains.  Weekly it has to be moved by lifting all the anchors (thats usually a sign to God to start a wind storm) floating the marina into it's new position and dropping anchors, leaving a couple feet of slack for chains. Docks have to be flexible or ridgid, it is like designing buildings that are under a constant earthquake load.  All my newer designs are flexible, however Most designers go ridgid. I have made several using small designs similar to yours. They seem to work well. One, the legs have pads for feet.  The other, downward pressure was put on pilings while a water pump "dug" out the silt as the piling went down. Once you stopped water flow, the mud settled in like concrete.It also seemed to stay put. A third design I have floats but has 2 legs at the shore end for holding it in place.  Those have to be cranked up while the docks are moved, then cranked back down when its into position.
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterI went out this AM to evaluate what I need to do and saw these 2 MONSTERS at the end of my dock..Largemouth Bass..Must weigh 2-3 LBS each!They are making a nest for the eggs so I won't disturb them for awhile.....zap!
Reply:Yup! Bend that rod into a hook and throw the stinger in the water!
Reply:Oh man!, you're killing me!!! I hope it's catch and release for the bass. Bluegills go into the frying pan."Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Saw these guys about 5 feet away from the other guys.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Couple of  the dock and yard..Time for a  My work is all done FINALLY!!!!!!...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Originally Posted by Stick-manOh man!, you're killing me!!! I hope it's catch and release for the bass. Bluegills go into the frying pan.
Reply:I am officially jealous as hell. I have to drive 15-20 minuets to get to my favorite bass fishing hole. Then if it has been raining  better have a 4x4 with mud tires. You just walk out your backdoor. Beautiful place man, If you cant fix it with a hammer, it must be an electrical problem."Boy, everyone starts with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck is empty."-Grandad circa 1990ish
Reply:nice lighthouse garden. do they light up for walkway lites at nite? overall 5 stars.
Reply:Just keep the door locked after you get out.---No good deed goes unpunished---
Reply:Those look like a job for some plastic worm jerk bait and a light pole ...Fish onLucky man ZapBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:If you ever have to adjust the dock, we use a barrel full of water and position it under the structure.  When you start filling it with air it will act like a jack to lift it.  Each one will lift around 400 Lbs. Makes it easy to lower or raise those adjustable legs..
Reply:I am in the wrong place of the US.....too many jobs, not enough time.  GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!  Heck I haven't even thot about fishing yet.....still dreaming of the ultimate sled powder.Miller Big Blue Air PakMiller 350P, Python GunHyperthermsSpool gunsMetabo GrindersWe "dooit" as a family...."a family that sleds together stays together"......from sleddin to campin to 4 wheelin to workin.....gotta enjoy life somewhere!Post #18 Is that cat taking a  in the flower bed? "Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammPost #18 Is that cat taking a  in the flower bed?
Reply:Originally Posted by blackbartIf you ever have to adjust the dock, we use a barrel full of water and position it under the structure.  When you start filling it with air it will act like a jack to lift it.  Each one will lift around 400 Lbs. Makes it easy to lower or raise those adjustable legs..
Reply:Originally Posted by dbl612nice lighthouse garden. do they light up for walkway lites at nite? overall 5 stars.
Reply:Zapster!  I am shocked!  A post of your own personal stuff, not the usual shop work!Nice place!  I am amused by the size of the fire hydrant in comparison to the light houses!- MondoMember, AWSLincoln ProMIG 140Lincoln AC TombstoneCraftsman Lathe 12 x 24 c1935Atlas MFC Horizontal MillCraftsman Commercial Lathe 12 x 36 c1970- - - I'll just keep on keepin' on.
Reply:I couldn't tell by the photos but did you ventilate those square tubes at the top and the bottom?Looks like all that square tubing would be pretty buoyant.RexPS Nice yard!
Reply:Even working and living at a lake, I still can't find time to fish!!!  I'm doing something wrong.  Although when I am working scuba under the marinas I have laminated notes I hook on lines that say things like "We don't like power bait, send down a six pack"  or "Single white male bass wishes to meet female Vegan".  Problem is, it's hard not to drown laughing when you 60' deep!  I have made a couple ,way too serious" fishermen mad, but overall it's funny.    The hyd jack is a fine idea if your deepth is shallow enough.  I assumed it was deeper.  Where is that lake?  Gorgeus place to live though!Last edited by blackbart; 05-06-2013 at 03:04 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by rexcormackI couldn't tell by the photos but did you ventilate those square tubes at the top and the bottom?Looks like all that square tubing would be pretty buoyant.RexPS Nice yard!
Reply:Originally Posted by rexcormackI couldn't tell by the photos but did you ventilate those square tubes at the top and the bottom?Looks like all that square tubing would be pretty buoyant.RexPS Nice yard!
Reply:Originally Posted by zapsterCatch and release for everything in here........OR ELSE!...zap!
Reply:By the end of this month I'll have spread 2.5 yards of garden mix, 8 yards of medium fir mulch, 7 yrds of top soil and 12 yrds of 3/4"- gravel by hand. we used the excavator for the 100 yrds of fill dirt that were brought in. I've already build a 12'x10' green house off the back side of my shop. Put in a 10'x20' parking pad in front of the big shop door, painted the 3 main living areas in the house. will be adding some latice under the deck to keep toys out, bringing in a couple thousand lbs of river rock, planting some grass, and some Rhodies, staining the deck, painting my shop, and then once I've got all that done I get to start working on the metal projects I've got planned for this year. two of which I can already see being put off until next summer... Luckily I've had some help with the above listed items but the majority of this work has been done by hand with minimal assistance and 90% of it was done in April.There are no problems. There are only solutions. It's your duty to determine the right one.Hobart Handler 210Airco 225 Amp MSM Stinger
Reply:catch and release? I'd be eating fresh fish every friday for sure!
Reply:Today the water was just fine so phase 2 of dock rebuild got underway..I figured the easiest way to get it out of the water was to just take it apart..So I flipped it over in the water and with the help of a battery powered drill took all the straps that were holding the wood to the frame out and now I can let the wood dry out on the shore..Frame..Wood..Got the rake out and cleaned all the leaves and other assorted trash out of the water so now I have a nice sand base again..Got the stand approx where it's going to be to check for levelness..Looks OK to me..But I am going to take the tube back to the shop tomorrow and make some bungs with a 3/8-16 thread in them and weld them into the ends because I know it will be much stronger than my first plan of just drilling and bolting them straight down on the tube holders..Should be easy enough to drill out the sides of the frame for bolts..I am also going to make some better "straps" to hold the wood to the frame..That's about it for now..Next weekend it should be all set for use..GO BRUINS!...zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Hurry up and get that dock out to catch breakfast!
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTHurry up and get that dock out to catch breakfast!
Reply:You would change your mind around my area of crystal clear lakes and polluted rivers.
Reply:I don't know about breakfast. I'll stick to meat and eggs.But bluegill IS the tastiest fish you can eat. And they reproduce faster than rabbits. So Zap, catch a few, leave the skin on and gut them, and fry them up. Mmmmmmmmmm!!!"Where's Stick man????????" - 7A749"SHHHHHH!! I sent him over to snag that MIC-4 while tbone wasn't looking!" - duaneb55"I have bought a few of Tbone's things unlike Stick-Man who helps himself" - TozziWelding"Stick-man"
Reply:Final assy and installation completed this A.M.!!!It is a one man job now!!I took some 2X2X1/4" aluminum angle and made stiffeners/holders out of them..One on each side of a frame tube and one 1/4-20 threaded rod to hold it down..Got some small angle and just made a wood holder/stiffener for the rear..Dug out a new spot on the beach and added 3 plastic pallets for a step up..I like it!Pics are not in order but you get the picture...Couple more.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Tomorrow I will get the boat cleaned up and put the motor on and charge the battery then install my pump and it will be complete..Was not as bad as I thought it would be and it's easy enough to move by myself.....zap!I am not completely insane..Some parts are missing Professional Driver on a closed course....Do not attempt.Just because I'm a  dumbass don't mean that you can be too.So DON'T try any of this **** l do at home.
Reply:Looks good zap!
Reply:So where's the Baja?- MondoMember, AWSLincoln ProMIG 140Lincoln AC TombstoneCraftsman Lathe 12 x 24 c1935Atlas MFC Horizontal MillCraftsman Commercial Lathe 12 x 36 c1970- - - I'll just keep on keepin' on.
Reply:Originally Posted by MondoSo where's the Baja?- Mondo
Reply:Now it needs a diving board. If you cant fix it with a hammer, it must be an electrical problem."Boy, everyone starts with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck is empty."-Grandad circa 1990ish
Reply:Originally Posted by larpheadNow it needs a diving board.
Reply:Looks good, how much and often do you get variations in the water level?