Anyone rip off the rubber insulation around air torch to make it cool faster?

admin

Anyone rip off the rubber insulation around air torch to make it cool faster?I did today, seems to work better now that the copper head can easily disappate heat to the air. When the torch got pretty warm after using it off and on for 30 minutes I  even took a damp rag and touched the cooper steamed up and cooled off fairly fast. I have a water cooled torch on a different machine, but like to tinker with stuff.obviously with the copper exposed you have to be careful not to bump it against any metal while welding or it will short out!Maybe I'll wrap some fiberglass around it loosely to prevent accidents/murphy's law from occurring. also didn't realize it but the rubber insulation acted as a gasket around the tungsten holder. At first I thought the gas would come out the wrong way, but given all the threads it would have to escape from it doesn't really matter!
Reply:Originally Posted by AluminumWelderobviously with the copper exposed you have to be careful not to bump it against any metal while welding or it will short out!
Reply:Yes, but you'd have to be not wearing gloves and be very clumsy for that to occur. Kind of like touching the tungsten while the torch is on if you've ever done that you shouldn't be welding anyways! LOL.
Reply:Taping some dry ice to the torch head may help too Expert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Taping some dry ice to the torch head may help too
Reply:That's way too easy, Willie. I figured the smoking of the dry ice would also provide some cool effects while welding.I was going to suggest a 1000 amp input to an air cooled torch as an option as well.I'm just trying to be funny, if peeling the rubber off does the trick, works for me Expert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:This is great stuff fellas!With my newfound information, I may be able to just tig weld in a bucket of water to cool the torch on that yellow chinese tig machine in the back of my shop. Happy days, if I use distilled  water I might be able to dispense of the gas as the air can't get the weld to boot.Aint science great? Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonThis is great stuff fellas!With my newfound information, I may be able to just tig weld in a bucket of water to cool the torch on that yellow chinese tig machine in the back of my shop. Happy days, if I use distilled  water I might be able to dispense of the gas as the air can't get the weld to boot.Aint science great?
Reply:"Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Originally Posted by Willie BThey have a new invention called a liquid cooled torch. It is very cool! a pump pushes coolant through a hose, through a hollow void in the collet holder, then back down a tube which contains the torch wire. Ultimately, it goes to a radiator where a fan blows away the heat it picked up. I bought one, I love it!
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugThat water cooled torch will never catch on, just like computers. It's just the "hip" thing to do right now.
Reply:So why stop at the torch, strip the hose of the power cable too. Problem is you might have to preheat your alum with all that heat lost. How about welding in a Microwave? You could then put your wife to welding in the kitchen, barefoot, as to get a better grip on her technique.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Just buy the new WiFi torch with a build in fan it stay cool to the touch all the time.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpr...4EqsJun_bjErpA
Reply:Hey you could screw you bare powercable into a hammer head. clamp the tungsten onto the front, then after the wife welds the parts in the microwave she can bang them straight.Nope, clamp the tungsten to a golf club. Putt the welded parts out of the microwave and into the anodize tank with the other end of the power cable mounted to it so the current can weld and anodize at the same time. Holy moly with all that money I save I can pay the customer to weld his own parts. Well I may have to sent him the wife cause she is barefoot and has a grip on her skills. Well nuts with all that money that he pays her I can go to school and learn how to weld finally. Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li  ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Some of these answers may qualify? Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Taping some dry ice to the torch head may help too
Reply:You know HF wants to take any path other than though the tungsten. Now the torch head is exposed, you will probably be shocked sooner than later. And I believe Ck torches use brass and not copper so it depends on what torch you have. Just a little bit of info for youTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:awesome ideas folks. I took the cover off my welder today too and it runs much better now. I bet if I took my portable air condition and directed the air it would increase duty cycle too.
Reply:I'm just going to take the doors and windows off my car because the internet said to do so. Might as well take the roof off my house toTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:Originally Posted by shovelonHey you could screw you bare powercable into a hammer head. clamp the tungsten onto the front, then after the wife welds the parts in the microwave she can bang them straight.Nope, clamp the tungsten to a golf club. Putt the welded parts out of the microwave and into the anodize tank with the other end of the power cable mounted to it so the current can weld and anodize at the same time. Holy moly with all that money I save I can pay the customer to weld his own parts. Well I may have to sent him the wife cause she is barefoot and has a grip on her skills. Well nuts with all that money that he pays her I can go to school and learn how to weld finally.
Reply:Originally Posted by Broccoli1
Reply:Originally Posted by Broccoli1
Reply:Originally Posted by minnesotadaveawesome
Reply:That big asse fan might mess up my hair i think my air conditioner idea is betterOriginally Posted by AluminumWelderThat big asse fan might mess up my hair i think my air conditioner idea is better
Reply:
Reply:
Reply:Careful. Some hair gels are flammable.    .No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan
Reply:Just keep a bucket of water next to the table, when the torch starts to get warm dunk the whole thing in the water for a few seconds and continue working.12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTJust keep a bucket of water next to the table, when the torch starts to get warm dunk the whole thing in the water for a few seconds and continue working.
Reply:Hopefully the op doesn't sweat through his gloves. I know I have gotten lit up with the stick welder before.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI know people have done that with stick stingers - I've wondered if I could with my torch when on aluminum Thought it would shatter the cup and didn't try it - I hang it behind the giant fan on the Airco - still not fast enough
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTI had a cup just crumble in my hands like a week ago. It was fairly new too, I couldn't believe it.
Reply:It was a weldcraft.  Then it happened to be my last one and the lws didn't have any more so now I have some weird off brand gray thing on my torch.12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:why didnt you guys tell me  I could of just dunked my torch in water before.?What brand ceramic cups won't crack when you do that.?
Reply:Attached ImagesLast edited by zank; 03-07-2015 at 07:04 AM.Mike ZanconatoZanconato Custom Cycles @mzank on Instagram
Reply:I deserve at least 10 points for starting the thread, lol.
Reply:Wow, you learn something new every day on here.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:I cut all the insulation off my welding leads all together.  I mean its kind of annoying when working on the table, pan deck, anything remotely conductive, but hey they stay super cool,  well except for when they dead short on damn near everything, but hey you gotta have some trade offs right.Vantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Originally Posted by DualieI cut all the insulation off my welding leads all together.  I mean its kind of annoying when working on the table, pan deck, anything remotely conductive, but hey they stay super cool,  well except for when they dead short on damn near everything, but hey you gotta have some trade offs right.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveI know people have done that with stick stingers - I've wondered if I could with my torch when on aluminum Thought it would shatter the cup and didn't try it - I hang it behind the giant fan on the Airco - still not fast enough
Reply:Or a guy could have a nitrous bottle T'ed into the argon line with a solenoid and "purge" the nitrous to cool the torch quick between welds.12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:take off your clothes and weld naked, that will keep you cool as well, the flashing from that might blind any co workers though.
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawYou might me onto something here,  the fan on the 330 and the Dialarc's are huge,  get an automotive AC condenser or two and attach them to the back of the welder in front of the fan and then just add the pump and you would have a super water cooler for the torch.   condensers (or even radiators) can be had cheap at any junkyard....
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTOr a guy could have a nitrous bottle T'ed into the argon line with a solenoid and "purge" the nitrous to cool the torch quick between welds.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveMy Airco tops out at 470 amps, but I added a 50 shot of nitrous and now I'm at 520 amps in under 3 seconds ....traction is still an issue....so is wind resistance.......my coefficient of drag (Cd) is equivalent to an orange brick...approximately = 1.28....my bald head, Cd = .09
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTIt was a weldcraft.  Then it happened to be my last one and the lws didn't have any more so now I have some weird off brand gray thing on my torch.
Reply:Originally Posted by SquirmyPugIf you would wipe the dust off and wax it you may pick up a few .1s
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveWax is just an infomercial myth Golf ball dimples are the best way to lower the wind resistance of a welder