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More of a theoretical question at the moment, how difficult is it to combine wire feeders from makers other than the maker of the power source?Asked as on occasion there are what IMO are good to smokin' deals...I know it would make way more sense to have the power unit first but order of acquiring doesn't always work out perfectly.If its a matter of tracing down wires though not my favourite, possible, if its a matter of no way, no how then I would like to avoid those pairings. I am assuming that even old model to newer model from same maker can be tough if not impossible.
Reply:Depends on the machine and the wire feeder. Some wire feeders have kits for adapting to other makes. Without knowing which machine and which wire feeder, it's almost impossible to give an answer. if it's a voltage sensing feeder, then they can usually be used on most machines.
Reply:Hello RussZHC, feeders from past to present generally fall into a number of different categories: 115V power requirement, 24V power requirement, continuity closure to activate welding power from a power source, power to activate the contactor to provide power from a power source. You also have the possibility of voltage control on some feeders that presents another set of circuitry issues that may or may not match another manufacturers connection scheme. There are certainly many ways to overcome differences in connections and feature integration between different manufactures of feeders and power sources. You just have to consider that it may involve using a lot of knowledge of electrical circuitry and the inclusion of additional electrical components. I have been a part of some Frankenstein solutions for equipment differences, mainly to accept the challenge and the other part being the "cheap skate" in me attempting to make something work that I have inherited or otherwise got the "smokin deal" on. But you better be willing to accept the responsibility for letting the "smoke out" on some of your stuff if you attempt this sort of thing. Only you can make that sort of call and don't attempt it if you're not experienced with electricity and aware of the do's and don'ts. Good luck and best regards, Allanaevald
Reply:Thanks for the infoRusswhere I am located there is not much coming to market, much of what is is priced way to close to LWS selling prices to be worth the risk OR beaten beyond belief. Rarely items pop up that would be good deals but there is often a caveat such as 575v only which, to me, is out of reach. The latter, as an example, for months there has been a Canox power source (Canox being a repaint/rebadge of Miller) in nearly new condition for a really good price IMO but its 575v. It does include a wire feeder equivalent to the Miller S-64 in the same great condition.IMO it is just about a good enough deal to purchase on the chance of reselling the power source unit separate from the wire feeder at a later date (partially based on the prices showing for similar Miller feeders on EBay, and I know that is not the most accurate of what the market will stand). As example only, I wonder how well that feeder would match to Hobart, Lincoln, or Miller engine drive welders which do come up on occasion. Allan: I very much appreciate the heads up vis a vis letting smoke out...at some point the $$$ involved may make it too tempting to pass up when coupled with problems the correct solution could help solve [I am in one of those complex personal situations, at least from my view]
Reply:Shop feeders can be used on engine drives, but suitcase feeders are designed to deal with the abuse of travel storage etc.In your example above, any Miller engine drive designed with a 14 pin connector and CV capable would run that feeder most likely. A Trailblazer would, but a Bobcat would not ( lacks both the 14 pin connector and contactor). Bigger machines you'd want to see if they would support CV as many older ones are CC only standard, and CC/CV as a factory option. If you want a feeder that will work with most machines, chances are you want to look at a voltage sensing feeder (VS). These are most often found on engine drives, but they do make a few shop style VS feeders as well, usually older models.).No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! Ronald Reagan |
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发表于 2021-8-31 22:41:15