can't weld motorcycle gas tank HELP!

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ok im new to welding, maybe a year or so. i do pretty well for a beginner but i guess i thought i was better than i thought. cause i started a motorcycle gas tank project and completely screwed it up. basically no matter what i did i could not stop burning through the tank. i ended up completely trashing this tank. im using .30 wire lowest setting on my hobart 190. and tried every possible wire speed setting. but nothing worked. i really need some help. i have things i want to do on tanks but cant cause i suck. thanks
Reply:Nothing about the machine, gas ?Making the tank or fixing a 40 year old tank ?Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:I will suggest smaller wire(.024),tig or OA torch and maybe brazing w/ OA torch.                      MikeOl' Stonebreaker  "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:TIG, baby..TigMotorboating...in the Cleavage of the Tetons
Reply:Originally Posted by BurpeeNothing about the machine, gas ?Making the tank or fixing a 40 year old tank ?
Reply:As others have stated. TIG.www.tjsperformance.comDynasty 300 DXHTP 240HTP Microcut 380Hyperthem 85JD2 Hyd Bender and HF Hyd Ring Roller all in one =(Frankenbender)Bpt. Mill/DRO4' x 8' CNC Plasma TableInstagram: tjsperformanceYT: TJS Welding and Fabrication
Reply:Originally Posted by rideitTIG, baby..Tig
Reply:Originally Posted by cc riderits a hobart 190. im using flux core. .30 wire. its a fairly new tank and im trying to customize it. so what im doing is edge to edge, no over lap. i pulled back so to not blow through but then its just real blobby, and when i ground it down it was full of holes, and for a gas tank thats not good.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveIf you buy a tig, a few hundred hours of practice and you'll be all set.
Reply:What thickness is the tank ? Hobart specs sheet min thickness is 24 gauge for that machine. However your skill level needs to be factored in. Sounds like you gotta buy another machine for tig or one for tig and stick. Here's some ealier postings if they can helphttp://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...cycle-gas-tankhttp://www.millerwelds.com/resources...cycle-gas-tankhttp://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...as-tank-repair
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPOh yeah, just take the wind right out of his sails why don't cha!
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveToo much honesty? I've been accused of that before Dave J.
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPI could see the kid was in a big azz hurry. Tig welding is the way to go, then you tell him he's got hundreds of hours before he is ready for this project! I could just see his stomach turn over.I spent a large % of my life running flux core self shielded wire. That would be my last choice for this project.
Reply:who said i was afraid of practicing, anyway? i want to learn how to weld really well, so i knew going in to that it was going to take alot of hours of practice. if thats what it takes then thats what it takes. thanks for all the help everyone. looking at some tigs now.
Reply:Originally Posted by cc riderwho said i was afraid of practicing, anyway? i want to learn how to weld really well, so i knew going in to that it was going to take alot of hours of practice. if thats what it takes then thats what it takes. thanks for all the help everyone. looking at some tigs now.
Reply:Originally Posted by cc riderwho said i was afraid of practicing, anyway? i want to learn how to weld really well, so i knew going in to that it was going to take alot of hours of practice. if thats what it takes then thats what it takes. thanks for all the help everyone. looking at some tigs now.
Reply:TIG is the ultimate answer, but not the only one.MIG, using a spot welding style will produce acceptable results if you are careful.  The trick is sealing it all up.  As the spot welds become more dense, the metal will be able to take more heat.  You will have to blend in the old, cold spot welds, with your new.  Search the internet for videos on autobody repair.One other possibility is to tack the whole thing together and then give it to someone that already has a TIG.   It might cost you a few bucksCon Fuse!Miller Dynasty 350Millermatic 350P-Spoolmatic 30AMiller Multimatic 200Hypertherm PowerMax 1000G3Miller Maxstar 200DX