Iroquois Press Brake

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So I've been looking for a press brake as I'm rapidly outgrowing my 40 ton shop press  I've looked at some c-frame units. They are often too tall for my building. I have to stay under 9' to get in the door Today I stumbled across this Iroquois Press Brake (http://www.iroquoisiron.com/) which is totally different. They look low profile. I'd really like something in the 100+ tons. Something at least 4' wide would be minimum. I'm not set on this brand machine but rather the style. Anyone have any advise? Attached ImagesLast edited by forhire; 12-03-2010 at 08:06 PM.
Reply:Im not sure on their brakes but the place i worked at had one of thier iron workers and it was ok. It was deffiently no Geka.Ya gotta spend money to make money!
Reply:I've looked at that brand a few times before during moments when I thought I had enough money.  I really didn't think the prices where bad.  Try pricing out the hydraulic parts, electric parts, and materials.  Then make a guess at labor costs.....   I do like the simple, straight forward design.  Looks like any part on it could be made if you needed one and the company was no longer around.My name's not Jim....
Reply:Originally Posted by welderShaneIm not sure on their brakes but the place i worked at had one of thier iron workers and it was ok. It was deffiently no Geka.
Reply:I've not seen these, watched the video and they seem pretty straight forward.The one shown in your pic doesn't have the ram height control needed for air braking of multiples (it must be an option).Prices?Matt
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmI've looked at that brand a few times before during moments when I thought I had enough money.  I really didn't think the prices where bad.  Try pricing out the hydraulic parts, electric parts, and materials.  Then make a guess at labor costs.....   I do like the simple, straight forward design.  Looks like any part on it could be made if you needed one and the company was no longer around.
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireThat makes me want to call them and ask some questions.I picked a random photo. I really liked the simplicity. They range in price from around $13k to $28k and come with a basic die set. The cycle controls are options and range from $500 to $1500 additional. The Largest machine, 8' bed x 150 ton weighs in at 8000lbs and is only 84" tall. All the specs and options are all the way at the bottom of the page.
Reply:Hello, Has anyone looked at Standard Press Brakes ( Standard is the brand name). They look a little like Iroquois brakes.I have been looking for a machine to buy soon.Scotty1
Reply:Originally Posted by scotty1Has anyone looked at Standard Press Brakes ( Standard is the brand name). They look a little like Iroquois brakes.I have been looking for a machine to buy soon.
Reply:Forhire,Like i said i used their iron worker and it wasn't bad but it comes nowhere near a geka ironworker. I didn't like some of the features on the Iroquois. The punch plate that holds the die was bolted with four bolts and alot of times afterawhile that plate moves a tiny bit and boom you chip the punch because it is no longer centered with the die. I did'nt like that thier was not a foot option just a lever only. But im sure they make other models though. All in all it wasn't that bad though, just like a said its no geka.ShaneYa gotta spend money to make money!
Reply:The Standard Press pics show a "C" frame design that will allow sliding the piece part sideways to remove it. This helps with complex shapes sometimes and part stacking if there is room.The traditional "C" frame design needs much more beef than the design of the brake shown in the photo at the top because of the cantilever load design of the "C" frame.The downside of the Iriquois press is that sometimes pulling a part back out is a pain sometimes, I'm thinking of large parts that often are easier to "down break".Something like Boostin said, a good local hardware store, small machine shop, and you could keep it running.Matt
Reply:You hit it right on the money Matt.  I know getting parts out of my little brake I built can be a pain.  I know a local welding shop built his own 5 foot press brake with the "C" frame design and it works pretty good.  I know I've had him bend some 1/4" by 60" pieces for me.  I would think that Forhire would have the equipment necessary  to build his own if the he wasn't in a hurry.  That would come down to cost of parts and time involved....My name's not Jim....
Reply:Originally Posted by BoostinjdmYou hit it right on the money Matt.  I know getting parts out of my little brake I built can be a pain.  I know a local welding shop built his own 5 foot press brake with the "C" frame design and it works pretty good.  I know I've had him bend some 1/4" by 60" pieces for me.  I would think that Forhire would have the equipment necessary  to build his own if the he wasn't in a hurry.  That would come down to cost of parts and time involved....
Reply:I remember the plate he used was somewhere around two inches thick and the leverage arms at the top stuck straight out the back.  Maybe three foot long.  Then had some kind of large chain link looking things conecting them to the moving portion of the brake.  He had to 3 or 4" bore cylinders with about a 36" stroke and a two speed pump.To be honest, I was trying not to ask too many questions and get out of there quickly.  We are potentially competitors and I didn't want to tip him off to who I was.  I try not to take any of his customers, but I don't want to give up any of mine either.  Plus, I kinda need to have him bend stuff for me from time to time.  Just trying not to stir up anything....My name's not Jim....
Reply:forhire:I have a link to a shop built press brake.http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bendin...ake_build.htmlHe made it CNC, but you could just leave that part out.  I was thinking of building something similar myself when I get these 100 projects done.
Reply:Originally Posted by Fegenbushforhire:I have a link to a shop built press brake.http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bendin...ake_build.htmlHe made it CNC, but you could just leave that part out.  I was thinking of building something similar myself when I get these 100 projects done.