lathe gurus lil help please

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well ive been wanting a small lathe for some time and haven't got one yet. i found a lil old atlas that's missing parts but maybe rehabable but i don't know a whole lot about lathes so i figured i would ask to see what i might be getting myself into bringing an old machine back  and finding parts  http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/tls/2090356135.html  lemme know what ya think while im not in phx my brother is so i could have him pick it up for me until i get up to get it 350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:No chuck? No tailstock?  I wouldn't give much for it.  I have a 1950-1960ish craftsman (atlas I think) with chuck, tailstock, centers, etc that I gave $100 for.  I thought that was a little high since the lathe is pretty much worn out.Dynasty200DX w/coolmate1MM210MM VintageESAB miniarc161ltsLincoln AC225Victor O/A, Smith AW1ACutmaster 81IR 2475N7.5FPRage3Jancy USA1019" SBAEAD-200LE
Reply:Make a good "parts" machine if you had a twin but personally I'd pass and keep looking.MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1Syncrowave 180SDBobcat 225G Plus - LP/NGMUTT Suitcase WirefeederWC-1S/Spoolmatic 1HF-251D-1PakMaster 100XL '68 Red Face Code #6633 projectStar Jet 21-110Save Second Base!
Reply:Keep looking. The missing tailstock and lack of tooling would jump the price up into the area of a better candidate for your money. Atlas utilized Zamak cast-metal gears in this model and they were none too robust to begin with. Price is low enough and if you want to hunt down parts, do necessary clean-up, etc. you'll have a small lathe with a rather narrow work envelope that won't give you a lot of tooling you can re-use when you trade up in the future.EDIT: I don't see any change gears, other than what is on the lathe now.
Reply:I'd pass on it. My guess is the cash you'll have to put into it will be greater than the cost of a complete one. Besides, it looks kinda small, you'd out grow it quickly. Get ready for sticker shock when you start pricing out the tooling.   If you can find a sale that includes tooling, you'll be ahead of the game. my $0.02.If you don't want to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
Reply:lol, you beat me to it by 1 minute WyoRoy. If you don't want to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them.
Reply:Originally Posted by SWellslol, you beat me to it by 1 minute WyoRoy.
Reply:thanks guys i was leaning toward a 9x20 Chinese model to start with  unless i got lucky and found a good atlas or south bend figured it probably wouldn't be worth it but thought i would ask since im no machinist.......... yet350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:Keep an eye out for larger sized lathes in your area. The actual footprint won't be all that much larger, but you'll weed out a lot of potential buyers wanting the smallest lathe they can fit in their shop...which, unless you are a jeweler, makes about as much sense as using a 16 oz. hammer for busting pavement. Price goes down for the larger machines as well, again due to less demand. You can oftentimes find far more features, versatility, quality and heavy cast iron rigidity in the larger than 'cult' sized lathes...for less money.
Reply:I have been looking for a while.  After pricing out things, it became obvious that it's better to spend a little more up front for a machine that comes with what you are looking for.  I just put a deposit on an 11" Logan.  It was a little more than I was planning on spending but it comes with a lot of accessories and the guy knows it's my first lathe, so he's going to give me a bunch of extra tooling.  Now I just have to find some time to go pick it up.
Reply:anyone ever heard of a timken brand lathe theres a guy selling one on cl he says the previous owener said it a timken and it has a tag that says that tryed searching but all i get is bearings ?350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:Originally Posted by kazlxI have been looking for a while.  After pricing out things, it became obvious that it's better to spend a little more up front for a machine that comes with what you are looking for.  I just put a deposit on an 11" Logan.  It was a little more than I was planning on spending but it comes with a lot of accessories and the guy knows it's my first lathe, so he's going to give me a bunch of extra tooling.  Now I just have to find some time to go pick it up.
Reply:needs ALOT of cleaning. But.........http://www.govliquidation.com/auctio...&convertTo=USD
Reply:Originally Posted by umahunteranyone ever heard of a timken brand lathe theres a guy selling one on cl he says the previous owener said it a timken and it has a tag that says that tryed searching but all i get is bearings ?
Reply:thats what im thinking gonna see if he can get me som pics of the tag350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:Could it be that the manf. of the lathe was proudly advertising that his lathe had ball or roller bearings.   Lots of old lathes had brass, bronze or babbit metal bearings.  Even after ball and roller bearings were more common some of the lower end equipment manf. avoided their use for cost reasons."The reason we are here is that we are not all there"SA 200Idealarc TM 300 300MM 200MM 25130a SpoolgunPrecision Tig 375Invertec V350 ProSC-32 CS 12 Wire FeederOxweld/Purox O/AArcAirHypertherm Powermax 85LN25
Reply:It's worth waiting to find something you want.  I have been looking for over two months now.  Check other areas that you may be willing to travel to.  I put a deposit on the Logan below, but have conversed with and e-mailed the guy quite a bit.  Just trying to work out some time to go get it.  He seems happy that it's going to someone that's getting started instead of someone looking to part it out.  I think I'm getting a pretty good deal for what I'm paying for it.  I have looked at accessories and they definitely add up.  I think the only thing it doesn't really have is a quick change tool post, but I can pick one of those up.  I'm excited and should have it by the end of the month.  I check CL pretty much all day when I want something specific.  Obsessive...maybe, but I can usually end up getting what I think is a good deal. Originally Posted by dunemetalAssuming good condition that's a good find. Should be 1-3/8" spindle bore so you can use 5C collets in it. Got any pics?
Reply:Couple more pics. Attached Images
Reply:First rule in machining.  NEVER leave the chuck key in the chuck.
Reply:Originally Posted by umahunteranyone ever heard of a timken brand lathe theres a guy selling one on cl he says the previous owener said it a timken and it has a tag that says that tryed searching but all i get is bearings ?
Reply:Originally Posted by WFMFirst rule in machining.  NEVER leave the chuck key in the chuck.
Reply:I turned mine on with the key in the chuck........Still can't find the key
Reply:Originally Posted by 1awert1I turned mine on with the key in the chuck........Still can't find the key
Reply:Uma right here in Yuma we have a member who might be a lot of help.  He has just gone thru a similar unit.  MarkBall2> u might give him a try,  note: he may still be away from Yuma this weekend. ps; I like to watch a good lab work.  bring dog and gun to my ranchita  to shoot a few of those Texas doves which are eating my new alfalfa and rye pasture... no limit I think? U need a license.  enjoy, BretLincoln Power MIG 215Lincoln WeldPak 3200HDLincon ProCut 25Lincoln WeldanPower 225 AC/DCIf all else fails... buy more tools
Reply:Uma, PM me your phone number, I'm back in town now.  I'll give you a call & help as I can.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Buildthanks for the replys guys i will hit you up when the time comes as for now i have tabled the lathe since i am in need of a compressor more  as for the bird hunting would love to do it sometime but im swamped at work and in the stages of trying to build my first aluminum boat not even sure im gonna duck hunt this year350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:Well, if you need some small parts made, I can help with that too.  I do understand "swamped at work", so take your time, I'm not going anywhere.MarkI haven't always been a nurse........Craftsman 12"x36" LatheEnco G-30B MillHobart Handler 175Lincoln WeldandPower 225 AC/DC G-7 CV/CCAdd a Foot Pedal to a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric 165A DC TIG PapaLion's Gate Build
Reply:sounds good my first step is trying to get my spool gun dialed in for 080 ive done some 100 with success may have to use some backer rod cause my tig skills are know where near up to par yet hopefully i will get to give it a shot soon as i get my fence done ive been waiting on the lathe for some time hopeing a nice old machine would come along ive came across a couple but unfortunately a 4000 lb machine is to big for my lil shop i love those old machines if i had the space. havent ever come across a 70- 100 year old machine from china but if thats what the budjet calls for thats what ill doLast edited by umahunter; 12-13-2010 at 04:33 PM.350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:Kaz, I have one that is almost a sister to yours, mine is 1957 model. I don't have the follow or steady rest, but have a 8" 4 jaw and face plate with a bunch of dogs. I love that little machine, I need to replace the cross feed screw, it has some pretty bad backlash, I am considering going with precision ball screws on x and y and converting it to cnc.Do not go where the path may lead, instead go where there is no path and leave a trail.