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发表于 2021-8-31 22:30:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
What do u guys think of INNERSHIELD® NR®-212 I am building trailer sides out of 1/4angle iron I need to weld outside and need it to b all position
Reply:http://http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/global/Products/Consumable_Flux-CoredWires-Self-Shielded-Innershield-InnershieldNR-212/c3200014.pdfWhat machine you running it in Flying J?Lincoln Electric:Ranger GXT 250SA-200LN-25Pro MiG 256Pro Mig 180Esab CV 251Invertec 160Victor Torches”
Reply:Find a professional.
Reply:I think it's childs play to run. These were run with a 47-year old CC only engine drive.Flat fillet, vertical up, over head. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Thermal arc fabricator 252 I I also just did bend test on 1/4 inch plate w backing  and passed so I'm confident If I get right material I can  handle the weld part just don't know what wire
Reply:I just finished a mig course at lincoln welding school and did this test in vertical up position.  After I finished the  cap pass the teacher put the plate in the quench water tank WOULDN'T THIS MAKE IT BRITTLE AND COULD B WHY I HAD A SURFACE  HAIRLINE  CRACK .
Reply:Originally Posted by FlyingJI just finished a mig course at lincoln welding school and did this test in vertical up position.  After I finished the  cap pass the teacher put the plate in the quench water tank WOULDN'T THIS MAKE IT BRITTLE AND COULD B WHY I HAD A SURFACE  HAIRLINE  CRACK .
Reply:I have to disagree...Quenching a piece of A36 steel from 400 or 500 F. down to room temperature in a water tank is not going to harden it.   For the kind of isothermal transformation to occur that causes plain carbon steels to harden you'd have to have it up around 1600 F. before you quenched it.    So unless it was glowing a light cherry color when it hit the water I'm pretty sure that hairline crack wasn't caused by the plate being hardened.
Reply:It was just for kicks that we tested it n he said for him it wouldn't pass visual anyway so it wasn't for a cert or test
Reply:Any tips on running this wire
Reply:Right before pulling the trigger clear your mind of all impure thoughts in preparation for becoming one with the puddle.   Be the puddle young grasshopper.
Reply:Originally Posted by FlyingJAny tips on running this wire
Reply:CEP what is the best way to avoid porosity?Lincoln Electric:Ranger GXT 250SA-200LN-25Pro MiG 256Pro Mig 180Esab CV 251Invertec 160Victor Torches”
Reply:Down toward the bottom there's some recommended settings.http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...2/c3200014.pdfThis is a pretty good over all guide to running innershield wires in general.   There's some tips in there for eliminating porosity.http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...-MP/c32400.pdf
Reply:Originally Posted by ExcaliburCEP what is the best way to avoid porosity?
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPDon't run too much voltage. When you make a weld you want complete slag coverage. If the slag is spotty, you're either way to hot for the wire size, or too much voltage.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveIs it true of most flux core wires in general?
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPPretty much so for self shielded flux core. When Innershield first came out, about all we ever got on the job was NR-211. We would run 5/64-inch wire 400 + amps, sometimes you would have to look hard for the slag.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveThat's pouring the coals to her
Reply:I was thinking 045 for 1/4 inch and if I use knarled drive roles what else do I do different
Reply:Do you have a flux core gun? If not, with .045 you may not have problems with a regular Mig gun. Just to be safe, keep the gun as straight as you can at all times.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Whats the difference
Reply:Most of the time you cannot run self shielded flux core wire in a regular Mig gun. It is to stiff, and when the wire gets hot from running high amps the wire will freeze up in a regular Mig gun's liner. There are a lot of self shielded flux core guns on the market, I like Lincoln's K-126 guns the best. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:If your welding 1/4 inch steel, you don't need .045 wire.I'd stick to .035.CEP???Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopCEP???What do u guys think of INNERSHIELD® NR®-212 I am building trailer sides out of 1/4angle iron I need to weld outside and need it to b all position
Reply:http://http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/global/Products/Consumable_Flux-CoredWires-Self-Shielded-Innershield-InnershieldNR-212/c3200014.pdfWhat machine you running it in Flying J?Lincoln Electric:Ranger GXT 250SA-200LN-25Pro MiG 256Pro Mig 180Esab CV 251Invertec 160Victor Torches”
Reply:Find a professional.
Reply:I think it's childs play to run. These were run with a 47-year old CC only engine drive.Flat fillet, vertical up, over head. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Thermal arc fabricator 252 I I also just did bend test on 1/4 inch plate w backing  and passed so I'm confident If I get right material I can  handle the weld part just don't know what wire
Reply:I just finished a mig course at lincoln welding school and did this test in vertical up position.  After I finished the  cap pass the teacher put the plate in the quench water tank WOULDN'T THIS MAKE IT BRITTLE AND COULD B WHY I HAD A SURFACE  HAIRLINE  CRACK .
Reply:Originally Posted by FlyingJI just finished a mig course at lincoln welding school and did this test in vertical up position.  After I finished the  cap pass the teacher put the plate in the quench water tank WOULDN'T THIS MAKE IT BRITTLE AND COULD B WHY I HAD A SURFACE  HAIRLINE  CRACK .
Reply:I have to disagree...Quenching a piece of A36 steel from 400 or 500 F. down to room temperature in a water tank is not going to harden it.   For the kind of isothermal transformation to occur that causes plain carbon steels to harden you'd have to have it up around 1600 F. before you quenched it.    So unless it was glowing a light cherry color when it hit the water I'm pretty sure that hairline crack wasn't caused by the plate being hardened.
Reply:It was just for kicks that we tested it n he said for him it wouldn't pass visual anyway so it wasn't for a cert or test
Reply:Any tips on running this wire
Reply:Right before pulling the trigger clear your mind of all impure thoughts in preparation for becoming one with the puddle.   Be the puddle young grasshopper.
Reply:Originally Posted by FlyingJAny tips on running this wire
Reply:CEP what is the best way to avoid porosity?Lincoln Electric:Ranger GXT 250SA-200LN-25Pro MiG 256Pro Mig 180Esab CV 251Invertec 160Victor Torches”
Reply:Down toward the bottom there's some recommended settings.http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...2/c3200014.pdfThis is a pretty good over all guide to running innershield wires in general.   There's some tips in there for eliminating porosity.http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...-MP/c32400.pdf
Reply:Originally Posted by ExcaliburCEP what is the best way to avoid porosity?
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPDon't run too much voltage. When you make a weld you want complete slag coverage. If the slag is spotty, you're either way to hot for the wire size, or too much voltage.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveIs it true of most flux core wires in general?
Reply:Originally Posted by CEPPretty much so for self shielded flux core. When Innershield first came out, about all we ever got on the job was NR-211. We would run 5/64-inch wire 400 + amps, sometimes you would have to look hard for the slag.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveThat's pouring the coals to her
Reply:I was thinking 045 for 1/4 inch and if I use knarled drive roles what else do I do different
Reply:Do you have a flux core gun? If not, with .045 you may not have problems with a regular Mig gun. Just to be safe, keep the gun as straight as you can at all times.Don’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Whats the difference
Reply:Most of the time you cannot run self shielded flux core wire in a regular Mig gun. It is to stiff, and when the wire gets hot from running high amps the wire will freeze up in a regular Mig gun's liner. There are a lot of self shielded flux core guns on the market, I like Lincoln's K-126 guns the best. Attached ImagesDon’t pay any attention to meI’m just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:If your welding 1/4 inch steel, you don't need .045 wire.I'd stick to .035.CEP???Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopCEP???
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