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Would like to hear what any one involved with weld inspection is using for undercut measuring. Recommendations and links to any particular Manufacturers devices would be appreciated.
Reply:I don't think I have ever seen one as undercut is generally frowned upon. I have always used the fingernail test.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Its called an under cut gauge, specifically - VWAC (undercut) Gauge.http://bfy.tw/1KXA
Reply:Originally Posted by weldeng0403Its called an under cut gauge, specifically - VWAC (undercut) Gauge.http://bfy.tw/1KXA
Reply:they look like one of those little metal protrcters from general, and have like a 90 degree pick on one end. I know, cuz i had a welding inspector chase me around w/ one once. your allowed a certain amount of undercut. Once you get to plate over 1" thick, your allowed even more depth of undercut i think, i want to say 1/32+, but not sure. i was on this job where the general wanted it done in one pass, and the inspector wanted it multi pass. so the pressure was on meLast edited by 123weld; 08-16-2015 at 10:07 PM.
Reply:G.A.L Gauge makes a wide variety of weld measuring gauges for inspectors. http://www.galgage.com/measuring_pits.html
Reply:Well, thanks to a link provided in answer to my question I'm now the proud owner of one of these. Found it in the PO box this morning ($43 including shipping).As far as I know, come Monday I'll be the only one out on the shop floor with one of these. If the company has any device for measuring undercut they must be keeping it safe in a desk drawer up in the front office because I've yet to see a weld inspector with one out on the floor. It's all been up to a visual judgement call on their part as to what constitutes under cut that needs repairing. And while I agree with most of their calls there has been some places I'm pretty sure were code acceptable that should have (and would have been better off) just being left alone. Wanted to have the means to be sure my "visual judgement" is accurate before raising an issue with one of the inspectors. And if I can show them with this gage that it's under a 1/32" it will satisfy them and we can just both move on to more pressing issues gracefully.
Reply:@ HT2-4956 - bitch'n. Def a good score bro. Your operator "logic" is spot-on. Been scan'n CL & ST for the full-up CWI Kit for the future. "Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Originally Posted by HT2-4956Well, thanks to a link provided in answer to my question I'm now the proud owner of one of these. Found it in the PO box this morning ($43 including shipping).As far as I know, come Monday I'll be the only one out on the shop floor with one of these. If the company has any device for measuring undercut they must be keeping it safe in a desk drawer up in the front office because I've yet to see a weld inspector with one out on the floor. It's all been up to a visual judgement call on their part as to what constitutes under cut that needs repairing. And while I agree with most of their calls there has been some places I'm pretty sure were code acceptable that should have (and would have been better off) just being left alone. Wanted to have the means to be sure my "visual judgement" is accurate before raising an issue with one of the inspectors. And if I can show them with this gage that it's under a 1/32" it will satisfy them and we can just both move on to more pressing issues gracefully.
Reply:Originally Posted by AFFENDEWhile i agree with you from a welders standpoint, i might respectfully disagree with your from a QC / Inspection point of view.I did a lot of QC/QA work in my last job and it was a nice eye opener as to WHY parts get repaired sometimes. We would often send stuff back for repair if it was close to code / print tolerance if we had a particularly picky customer. A customer will always side with their own inspection team and can make the vendors life more difficult. I have been through it before ... Send stuff out that is close to tolerance and the customer says it wont pass incoming QC and now, since mroe than 5% of their parts didnt pass QC they are requiring 100% inspection on all parts with documentation.So i both agree with you (i have had my fair share of arguments with the bosses over time getting wasted repairing parts that did meet the technical requirements) and disagree with you (i had had my fights with the fabricators over them not wanting to fix a part ...when i was sacrificing 5 man hours this week to save us 10 man hours every week from then on).BTW: nice gage .... GAL makes some killer stuff! |
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