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Tig 18ga steel - My best so far - Need help

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发表于 2021-8-31 22:30:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
I've been practicing using TIG to weld 18ga steel with the intent to go to thinner gauge up to 22ga.I have learned how to tack the to pieces together and get good fusion welds on a butt joint, but I cannot get a bead going with filler on a T-joint. Sometimes I'll get blow-through, sometimes I'll get both side to puddle perfectly but not consistently. Is MIG more suitable for thinner metals? I see most videos on body panels and thin metals are done with MIG.Is this something better done with pulse?Any help would be appreciated! Here are some pics of my best tack/fusion welds.18ga steel1/16 E3 electrode140 amps100% argon
Reply:the main question is why are you doing 140A "blasts"?  How are you controlling the current? Foot pedal?  and why are you attempting to weld it to a thick piece of steel? 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:An instant blast of 140 amps allows me to fusion tack both plates together with out blow-through. I am using a foot pedal. I am not trying to weld it to a thick piece of steel. In one of the pictures it looks like the vertical piece is thicker but its just not a clean cut from my cut off saw. Both pieces are 18ga steel.
Reply:Are you not using filler material?It appears as though you are not.On thicker material, one can keep a puddle  going just using the parent metal, with no filler.On 18 gauge, it is less likely that you will be successful doing this on a fillet weld. After all, the metal that becomes the puddle, has to come from somewhere, and most likely, it will come from the vertical piece, gravity being what it is, and if gravity causes the metal fro the top piece to flow down to the bottom piece, there is a good chance you will get a hole where the metal used to beWith filler wire, you can get the puddle started on the top piece, add a little wire to the puddle at the top, and let gravity pull it down as you move the arc from the top piece to the bottom. Then it can just be a matter of adding to the puddle with your wire, as you move the puddle along, dab, dab, dab. You may still have to try to add the wire to the top part of the puddle, and wash it down with the arc, but being careful to keep the heat low, and not climb too high on the vertical piece, thereby avoiding undercut. Just a tiny bit of undercut on thin material means you will have removed most of the parent metal.
Reply:With filler wire, you can get the puddle started on the top piece, add a little wire to the puddle at the top, and let gravity pull it down as you move the arc from the top piece to the bottom.
Reply:Originally Posted by usersonyNice tip!  Will give it a try!Would aluminum blocks as heat sinks work to reduce the blow-through?
Reply:Update: geezerbill, I use some Mig wire like you suggested, had 0.025 here and does the job extremely nice. I ended up buying some 0.045 rods since it was about $10 cheaper than 0.035 rod. Here is a picture of my progress with filler rod:Foot Control18ga steel9F torch1/16th E3 tungsten#7 Cup with gas lens12 CFH of Argon
Reply:I'ma likin' that Sonny. Go do 100 feet.Bubble gumTooth pixDuct tapeBlack glueGBMF hammerScrew gun --bad battery (see above)
Reply:There ya go.It is already starting to look pretty consistent.You will learn how much wire you can add, how little you can afford to add, how much you must add, how fast you can travel, how fast you must travel...well, you get the idea.The only way to learn how fast is too fast, is to go too fast, and recognize the effect. the only way to learn how hot you can afford to run, is by running too hot, and recognizing the effect, etc.Experiment going too cold, too hot, too slow, too fast, too much filler, too little filler, and pretty soon, you will recognize when you get outside the acceptable parameters without even having to think about it.To me, that is when welding got fun, because my brain, eyes, hands all could weld all day, and my mind could be on a beach somewhere in the Caribbean
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