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I just picked up this lathe on a trade. and Im trying to figure what year and what it is it says 16" and you can see it has a long bed Im wondering where the serial numbers or model numbers are ay help would be great I can also get some close ups thanks Attached ImagesDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Looks like there's lots of room at the end of the bed to set your coffee cup down!Have you tried Practical Machinist or Home Shop Machinist? The folks there should be able to point you in the right direction.Some thoughts...are the legs original? I see supports from the bed into the chip pan in three spots, but only 2 sets of legs instead of 3.AndrewP.S. Found the following on lathes.co.uk...http://www.lathes.co.uk/lodgeshipley/Last edited by Andrew_D; 08-09-2011 at 10:03 PM.
Reply:looks like the middle is bowing  ..   bet that takes aome time to get level>Innovations are what i leave behind for History
Reply:Idacal,  There is a fella over on the Practicalmachinist.com site named JohnOder. If you post the pic in the antique machinery section, he will pretty much pinpoint your machine's age.  Looks like a nice old beast. Plenty of distance bewtween centers.Granthttp://jackalopefab.com/MM210Synchrowave 200DXMiller XMT350 w/60series feederMiller Bobcat 250 with SGA 100 and spoolgunHTP PlasmaFull Machine shop with everything
Reply:Originally Posted by jackalopeIdacal,  There is a fella over on the Practicalmachinist.com site named JohnOder. If you post the pic in the antique machinery section, he will pretty much pinpoint your machine's age.  Looks like a nice old beast. Plenty of distance bewtween centers.Grant
Reply:thanks guys Im heading over to that site. The bow in the bed is an optical illusion the strap in the middle is lose, strictly for dot, and I do have the third leg some body put rollers under this thing to move it around so I have to shim the the middle leg.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Originally Posted by dunemetal$20 bill says John has the catalog from L&S from the year it came out. He is an amazing guy and a tremendous resource.
Reply:try lathes.co.uk, they have information on lodge&shipley lathes as well.
Reply:Originally Posted by jackalopeI will NOT take you up on that bet! You are sure to lose if ya do!He will have the answers for you. OT, I was making some very small gears to fit an existing assembly with fixed centers. I needed to make a 4:1 reduction while still utilizing the fixed centers. With all the calculations we had done, we could not peg the right numbers. John came back with the calculations and gear cutter, pitch, in shot order. Cut the 3/4" gears and they worked perfectly!This guy is a dang genius!!!
Reply:He has gone out of his way to help me already. Tried doing a little turning today my chips are coming off blue though. The gearing is taking me a while to figure out. its a lot of fun though.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Originally Posted by idacal Tried doing a little turning today my chips are coming off blue though.
Reply:I saw that one, about made me loose my lunch, instant hamburger. I am trying to get the feed rates slower. Im using the slowest feed and the star nut and it still seems to feed incredibly fast its supposed to be 128 turns per inch. but the chips sure seem thick I dont know what you would ever use the faster rates for besides threading.  The issue is Im not getting a smooth finish. tomorrow is another day and I will mess around some more with it.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:What are you using HSS or carbide? A lot of brazed carbide tools have negative/neutral rake although I'd think your lathe has the *** to handle them. I look for "tan" chips as I'm not in production. I love HSS, you can't beat the cost.
Reply:I was trying out both, but the tool post holders hold the bits at such an angle that the carbides dont contact at the top edge unless the cutter is set way below centerline on the piece thats being cut.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Assuming you have a sharp cutting edge AND your cutting edge is centerline (not above or below), your feed and speed are incorrect. Make sure your lead screw is disengaged so as not to be "threading" your piece. What size piece of material are you trying to cut (diameter) and what is the material? For carbide, a blue chip is okay as long as it is not dark blue. Your chip should be carrying away the heat from the work piece. Your sutting tool should not be hot at all. Rather, cool to the touch.Do you have any pictures of your tooling the way it is currently set up?Granthttp://jackalopefab.com/MM210Synchrowave 200DXMiller XMT350 w/60series feederMiller Bobcat 250 with SGA 100 and spoolgunHTP PlasmaFull Machine shop with everything
Reply:Here is the tooling I have right now and how I have it set up. I dont know what kind a steel it is its an ancient cable tool drilling stem but the finest cuts this lathe can make according to the brass plates is 128 turns per inch thats like .008 a rotation thats using the star nut of course. just have to feed the gentle stuff by hand I guess Attached ImagesDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.