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I have been dealing with electricians lately and am having the joyous task dealing with those who understand heavy duty industrial work, and then those who are used to residential work and get a bit overwhelmed by the requirements of an industrial setting that they don't fully understand. It got me thinking about every ones different operations. What do you guys consider yourselves in the big picture of things and how would you classify your work?Gear: Esab power compact 205 with tbi industries torch BOC Smootharc 185dc tig Miller Syncrowave 350LX
Reply:I am not sure what exactly you are trying to figure out. I worked in the trades for 17 years and did electrical as one of them. Welding has been both professional and as a hobby. My experience started on the residential side and then moved to commercial when I started working on warehouses/offices and restaurants. The electrical work was light commercial and dealing with mostly single phase circuits coming from 3 phase panels.The welding projects have varied from building gates, to repairing equipment used in restaurants, repairing equipment used in hot pressure washing, and even building drainage grates for parking lots and replacing and repairing the framework that the grates sat in. Recently I built sign frames from Corten steel which are installed in a city park.Serious hobbyist and light professional use would fit the kind of use my tools see. It varies depending on each project and I also like to use quality tools that are up to a task. My single car garage has a 250v 1.5hp bench top mill which sits on a cast iron base, Miller 330abp tig welder, 375 extreme plasma, miller 135 mig, had a 60 gallon compressor, baldor 1/2hp 3 phase bench grinder, old 1/3hp 6" bench grinder, Femi band saw, dewalt 12" miter saw, Milwaukee V28 tools, paslode nail guns, 5" Milwaukee angle grinder (early 2000's model), etc. I learned to do a good job at whatever I tried and even though I did limited work in some trades, I had the tools needed and turned out product as good or better than some who did the single trade everyday. The volume of work may not have been as high as some pros, but I took the jobs on with the intent of not looking like a handyman who just sort of completed the tasks at hand with a mixed bag of results. With that said, I was a type of handyman, but I didn't want to earn the bad reputation of just doing bandaid fixes.One job, last week, involved 12 pounds of aluminum square tube and one 16' board of composite lumber and one a few months back involved 1500 pounds of steel, fabwork, and finishing and patina. Now, my primary work is sharpening and servicing equipment for animal groomers, vets, and salons. One stop may consist of selling retail product and sharpening shears and the next might be picking up a lift table to reweld, drill, and install bushings and bolts to correct the wear from a product that was not engineered very well. Other stops require rebuilding clipper or picking up 40 blades to sharpen, or dryers (vacuum cleaner motors) to be repaired. This is for a family business. My dad and I are building a CNC plasma table. I had a job where I needed to supply 8" tall letters cut from steel to form a sign, but our table was not done, so I had to farm it out.The view will change depending on a person's perspective.
Reply:Thanks for posting, I am not trying to figure anything out. Just want to see what people do. Its such a vast field from guys who make little brackets, to guys who build giant ocean going ships. All with different needs and skills.The reason I ask and the reason made me mention electricians, is I was requesting quotes for a future install that had specific power needs. Industrial grade 3 phase stuff. First electrician who does mostly residential while he was willing to quote it, spent alot of the time going on about how expensive it would be and questioning the need for 3 phase power and saying we should be buying and using single phase gear. Second electrician who was an industrial electrician, understood exactly what was needed, even offered good suggestions on the installation and even went through the manuals of some of the equipment with me to make sure that he was quoting for what was needed.Last edited by William Payne; 09-19-2015 at 04:05 AM.Gear: Esab power compact 205 with tbi industries torch BOC Smootharc 185dc tig Miller Syncrowave 350LX
Reply:Im just a hobbyist. But I cant imagine for one little bit that I would get overwhelmed in an industrial setting. Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:Just this week the Master Electrician who was hired to oversee the electrical part of the construction of the shop I now work at gave me some pictures he took during construction. He then stayed on to be our head of maintenance. As far as I'm concerned an "Industrial Grade" Electrician is dam near worth his weight in Gold. Construction site or shop you can rarely go wrong by seeking out and befriending the head electrical guru on site.
Reply:Industrial with the ability to do light duty and try to avoid household. Sent from my C811 4G using TapatalkVantage 300 kubota ,miller 304 xmt ,lincoln ln 25 pro , ranger 305 G, plenty of other tools of the trade to make the sparks fly.
Reply:Originally Posted by GmmandanIndustrial with the ability to do light duty and try to avoid household. Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by RS FabricationI agree. I love working with material around 3/16 and up. Anything under that is a chore and is more delicate, meaning easier to burn through or needs special finishing (sanding,polishing)
Reply:I consider what I build "industrial fabrications". All my customers are small-to-large manufacturers in RI. They manufacture steam boats, slitters, press feeds, measuring validators, brazing alloys, strip stock, etc. All the fabrications are built from drawings.I do this all out of a small garage / shop at my house (since 1988). The work ranges in spectrum from 20 ga. metals to 1" thick and sometimes greater. Rich
Reply:i was a structural ironworker for 16 years then went to work for the city of new york as a welder. assigned to dept correction. been there since 1988. i work with 2 master electricians. if you forget it for a minute one of them will gladly remind you.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:CEP you so funny, one of these days you'll grow up to be a big boy welder, and maybe build a bridge or something, oh wait you been there done that.Thermal Arc 210 - Tweco 211I - Cutmaster 52
Reply:Mine is definitely in the home/retired slot. I mostly build stuff for myself and friends. Thickest I'll see is 3/8". I do welding repair jobs for farmers maybe 2 or 3 times a yr w/ my portable. A contractor neighbor occasionally has me build handrails, etc for his jobs. MikeOl' Stonebreaker "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes"Hobart G-213 portableMiller 175 migMiller thunderbolt ac/dc stick Victor O/A setupMakita chop saw
Reply:I do all of it, whatever comes threw the door. I've spot welded yard art together/fixed back together and I have cut out and welded 1" thick brackets for loaders.I have machined knobs for kitchen cabinets and 6"+ hydraulic pistons for excavators.I have made bird houses out of wood and have built garages.I have wired coffee table lamps and again whole garages.I like to be flexible.12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:I'm a home not-so-handy man. I don't even own the welder that I'm using on my current project. I borrowed it. I'm (barely) adding welding to a long list of other things that I can do half-fast. But I know what you mean about electricians. As the voltage goes up, the skills required go up. A guy who can do it all in the nuclear, petro-chemical, refining, utility power generating, or pharmaceutical manufacturing plant industry has to know way more than a residential electrician. I was an I&E project engineer at an oil refinery for part of my career. We usually had to hire special crews just to work on anything above 2300 Volts. I designed and specified installations up to 12 KV, and motor/generators up to 10,000 HP, but they were installed and maintained by electricians who had higher voltage skills.
Reply:Purely home handyman/DIY stuff here. Just using a little Hobart Handler 135 (120V) and 75/25 gas. Did an under-counter wine rack (still need to get it mounted) and a stand/base for a sink for the greenhouse, and I'm looking at a bunch of different build projects to do now that I am starting to actually get some use out of the welder!"The problems with quotes on the Internet is, you can never be certain of their authenticity." - Benjamin Franklin
Reply:Option 4: Welding Student.Currently working as a Paralegal, but still interested in hobby welding.Miller Bobcat 225ntOne- Character Fractions: ¼ ½ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ |
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