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Up until recently all of the welding that I have been doing (I'm a hobbyist) has been aluminum TIG. However the last few projects have involved building with mild CRS and HRS, and it looks like this trend will be increasing in the future. So now I am considering adding a MIG for projects where using TIG might be a less efficient choice. I don't expect to need to weld anything thicker than 3/8", usually 1/4" or less.I found out two days ago that a good friend is looking to upgrade from his Millermatic 211 to a more powerful MIG, and offered to sell me his ~1 year old 211 "at a fair price" including two nearly full spools of quality ER70S3 wire (one is either .023 else .030, the other is labeled .035), along with the gun, cables, ground clamp, etc. All I would need to add to get started would be a bottle of C25, a meter, and a gas hose.I've only used a MIG a couple of times and that was a long time ago. If I am a TIG welder of modest skills, how quickly do you think I can get the hang of MIG?Also, what do you think a fair market price would be for a clean, very good to excellent condition Millermatic 211 with MVP and all accessories listed above?Finally is there any item(s) that I am overlooking or forgetting with this setup?Thanks as always.
Reply:I can't comment on a fair price for that model but I can say MIG is the easiest of all processes to learn. I mean reeeeeeally easy.
Reply:The Miller 211 dual voltage machine would probably be perfect for what you are looking to do. I'd jump on it so long as it really is a fair price and not an abused machine (doesn't sound like it is, he probably didn't use it much either). Keep in mind that a NEW Miller 211 is $1100 at Cyberweld (call your local LWS to get a quote, too). I'd ballpark maybe $800-850 or so for a clean, newish machine with a couple spools of wire, just off the top of my head.Hobart Stickmate LX235AC/160DCRanger 305GVictor 315 O/A rigHope to acquire in the next couple of years: Hypertherm PM45 and Dynasty 200DX
Reply:Your going to have to learn what to do with your left hand ( stabilize the right hand, drink a beer, wave at people) what to do with your foot (keep them planted, tap a rhythm, kick something) and have to learn to squeeze your trigger finger (like a gun). I know it sounds complicated but after a little while you will get the hang of it.Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Reply:I migged before I ever tigged. You'll get the hang of it VERY QUICKLY. Basically you can view the puddle from the side and it's like tig, cept you don't have to add wire and the way you grab the gun is different. Just pull the puddle to you. Adjust by the sound. My XMT with no pulse sounds like a duck farting when it's dialed in right on short circuit. For that machine, from a buddy, that's practically brand new and has 2 years left on the warranty that he will honor for you, I'd say $700-800 is fair for both of you.
Reply:Good thing is the mig is a Miller. Lift the hood to see the wire, and bingo you see the setup chart. How easy is that. After that it is easy.Weld like a "WELDOR", not a wel-"DERR" MillerDynasty700DX,Dynasty350DX4ea,Dynasty200DX,Li ncolnSW200-2ea.,MillerMatic350P,MillerMatic200w/spoolgun,MKCobraMig260,Lincoln SP-170T,PlasmaCam/Hypertherm1250,HFProTig2ea,MigMax1ea.
Reply:Thanks. I guess it's time to start negotiating with my friend, but first I think I will lubricate the process with a couple of cold local beers.
Reply:I'm just not getting the picture. What, exactly does a duck fart sound like? ChuckTo ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth. This was the ancient law of youth. Old times are past, old days are done, but the law runs true oh little son.Winpower 180 DCSA-200 redfaceXMT-304
Reply:Like an XMT running .023 wire through a miller suitcase/Q300 at 16.2V and 140 ipm with inductance set at 2.Last edited by Drf255; 05-09-2014 at 05:14 AM.
Reply:With the MM211 you can still do aluminum welding with the addition of a spool gun and argon, for when you need to weld it faster than with TIG. |
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