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The folks who made this really screwed it up ..It was a flawed design to begin with and should have been made of 1/2 inch instead of the 1/4 they used...Note the cutout and patch over where they tried to space it away for the feeder chains It's not just the fact that of when the trucks dump their load in it it bends and causes it to rub on the feeder chains in the hopperThe jaw hitches on the trucks hit the front causing it to bend the other wayI straightened it as best i could working with my mobile press and vise and used an entire tank of acetylene heating and beating and trying to shrink it but it's just to messed up and ...Now he has changed his mind again for the third time and want me to make a new one from 1/2 plate ...The extreme dimensions of the part is 1 ft X 7/12 inch X 6 ft 6 inch   not including the side mounting tabsPics of the partBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Now keep in mind this guy let his crew / operator wear out not just the cutting edge of the gannon on his JD 210 loader but there no bolt holes left on the right hand side of it and the one on the left is less than half there So i am making a new moldboard from 1/2 X 4 A-36 and re squaring it and dropping the new mount holes 1/2 inch to prevent me from a bunch of work cutting a wedge to re square the original moldboard ...Then re doing the gussets that re enforced the moldboard since they have also been ground awayThen re making the box sides since they are worn beyond the inserts that should have been re placed with the cutting edge He balked at the cost of 1/2 A-36 the ask me about doing it with AR plate ....When i told him what the material would cost doing it in AR 400 i thought he was going to croak ...HA HA ...IDIOTHell he thinks that the 500.00 bucks i'm charging to do the box scraper is excessiveHe actually asked if it included the cost of making the new part for the asphalt spreader.....AHHHHH......NOLast edited by killdozerd11; 08-07-2014 at 06:02 PM.Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Kill, had years wrenchin and weldin for a huge pavin company. Man, can those tar babies tear stuff up or what!!!!!!!!             ChuckTo ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth. This was the ancient law of youth. Old times are past, old days are done, but the law runs true oh little son.Winpower 180 DCSA-200 redfaceXMT-304
Reply:Looks like you got a fun one KD Airco Ac/Dc 300 HeliwelderMillerMatic 200 (stolen)Miller Maxstar 150STLMiller AEAD200LE (welding and generating power) Hobart MIG
Reply:Tar Baby An excellent description ...i started to clean it up but after the cup brush plugged up then bit me in the hand i said screw it and just let it burn off during the heat and beat session  Thanks Pug I have never worked on one of these things so i will learn something if nothing elseIf someone has any advise i am open to suggestions and what ever you can contributeBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Man, never had any tar baby stuff yet - I will pay attention here Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Repairs on that mess?! Ugh, I can smell it from here. Good luck KD.SqWave 200Millermatic 190Airco 200 ACHypertherm PM45Boice-Crane Band SawVictor O/A
Reply:If there is a lot of asphalt left on  it you can get most of it off if you set your cutting torch up and just hold the oxygen lever down and it will blow it off wear a face shield it pretty much sends hot bits all over the place
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11...He balked at the cost of 1/2 A-36 the ask me about doing it with AR plate ....When i told him what the material would cost doing it in AR 400 i thought he was going to croak ...HA HA ...IDIOTHell he thinks that the 500.00 bucks i'm charging to do the box scraper is excessive...
Reply:Isn't that always true Bob ...People don't take care of things like that then get mad because it is now a major repair...and it has a major cost to get it doneWhen i first looked at it i told him for about a grand you can buy another used gannon ...In fact i was looking at a flail mower and he also had a good used gannon just like his but needed a new cylinder for the ripper bar as someone had taken the one that was on it ....Hell he only wanted 500.00 for itI just gave it a cursory look as i was not interested in it but it's long gone now at that priceBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:My favorite line from these clowns is I'm paying cash. I don't know about the rest of you guys but I don't accept goats, chickens,green stamps or anything other than cash . Had a contractor question my price on a small job, (200 bucks), and I told him how can you charge 75 bucks an hour for a job that requires just a few hand tools then whine about paying 50 an hour to fix his crap. Reminds me of this dude I know with a junkyard. Guy comes in for a Cadillac taillight, after telling the guy 50 bucks the guy whines about the price. Dude smashes the light on the counter and says you don't deserve the Fing thing and to leave and not come back.
Reply:It seems like the ones who can afford the most are the cheapest. A good one for the guys you don't want to work for is to ask for a deposit about 2or 3 times the cost then tell him you will be happy to refund the difference in price.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Yeah, five goats and two chickens should cover that hard facing job... AR steel will cost you an additional three bulls and two dozen bushels of corn Awesome story about the junkyard. Bet the light was like $300 retail. Dude was getting a deal and still wanted it for nothing.. Wish I coulda been there for that I did some work years ago for a very wealthy property management company who was a major franchiser for Yum Brands. They own all the Taco Bell and KFC restaurants in the Lansing and surrounding Brighton area. These guys were the cheapest ppl you could ever imagine. Literally wanted to pay for ONLY the time the arc was lit. No travel time, no minimums just the time you were there and even then, their maintenance manager made it sound like it was coming out of his pocket.Then, after all that BS, they say- "Well, here's our address, bill us, we'll cut you a check within sixty days!" Sure, I can go for that if they're regularly calling me, but it was like once every four/eight months and after the first job, the rest were under two hours and their maintenance man just bitched to high heaven about every penny of it.After the first time that happened, I told their rinky dink maintenance dude that they were gonna have to pay cash for anything under $200. Guy looks at me like I'm crazy. I say "Don't you have a petty cash account for repairs and stuff?" Again, looks at me like I'm crazy. He ended up begrudgingly giving me a personal check because he had no access to petty cash and I didn't have a credit card machine in my back pocket. All this for a $45 charge. Again dude just bitched, and bitched, and bitched about having to write me a check for $45 bux the entire time I was dragging up. Needless to say, they didn't call me back. Funny as hell how a multi million dollar property management company with over a dozen franchises in one of the most expensive companies to franchise with would be that pathetically tight. I saw some of their stainless junk in my buddies shop awhile back, I asked him if it was theirs. He rolled his eyes and said, yeah... I'll make sure I'm too busy to work for them if they ever happened to call me back
Reply:Originally Posted by welderjThe local big money man who owned all the property worth owning in my town was just like that. I would send him a bill which he wouldn't pay til I billed him a late fee, then he paid minus the fee. I just added the late fee to the top of the next bill.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I bet she let you slide on a few Dave
Reply:Well here is what i'm doing right now New moldboard for his gannon box scraper and as you can see maintenance is on the bottom of his listBut he complained about not having a rag under the steel i brought and put on his trailer to cut it...He didn't want the paint scratched  But yet he want me to weld on new D rings he has on the trailer...O Brother ...I ought to burn them on with some 6010Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:More picsBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:He didn't know about a needle scaler and thought i was taking to long doing clean up so i could star fit up...It's always the guy who don't know **** that wants to give me the benefit of his vast knowledge of my trade ...after all i just found out how to do this yesterdayBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Glory shotsBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Looks like you need a bigger truck. You have to love the experts who are so good at destroying something having all the wisdom when its repair time.
Reply:I welded tacks and root with 1/8 7018 fills with 3/16 7018 ...To windy to run duel shield and i don't have any self shield NR- 212 or NR- 232I lost my balance and now have a 1/2 " wide burn on my arm and mashed the tip of my middle finger when putting the cutting edge on the new mold board blood under the finger nail .both smart a lot... burn only 2nd degree that mold board was between 400 and 500 degrees i guessHot anywaysTomorrow got to drill the mounting holes i brought a 5/8 bit thinking they would be the same size as mine ...No ..They are 3/4 so i rolled up and now after this a shower and bed ...Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Originally Posted by killdozerd11He didn't know about a needle scaler and thought i was taking to long doing clean up so i could star fit up...It's always the guy who don't know **** that wants to give me the benefit of his vast knowledge of my trade ...after all i just found out how to do this yesterday
Reply:Since i ran that machine it is really nice and worth several grand and i don't get why would you let something like that just go to hell...It makes no senseBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Hope that burn heals ok!Since they are offering advice, maybe a new pricing structure is in order Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.Finished this on Monday ..I could not get a 3/4 drill bit at any place then finally found one at the new tractor supply Normally i would not have used this bit but was against the wall to get it done anyone who makes a 3/4 bit has a 1/2 shank ....this one had been made with a 3/8 shank so i could see a problem before i even started and i got 3 of 7 done before the shank bent when the bit hung upthe 1/2 Milwaukee drill is not a forgiving machine when hand drilling 3/4 holes free hand on an offsetI went to an industrial supply and got a good bit on MondayI would normally do this with a mag drill but i no longer have access to onePics of cutting edge installed and new sides  finished Backed my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:This guy comes to me raving that he is going to have to rent a tractor at 3:00 pm because i only had one side piece tacked on and how it wasn't going to work the way i was doing it The piece for the other side was laying on my tailgate already cut and beveled but i had not mounted or tacked it yetI told him ..How long do you think it's going to take me to weld on 2- 30" x 1/2" pieces of plateFinished at 4:45 because i ran the TB out of gas and had to unplug everything and run to the gas station fill up and get back plug it all back in and finish the re attach the scraper to the 3 point all by my lonesome and test it out everything is fine But by the way he talks to me you would think i have never run one or fixed one ...None of my fathers equipment never got in this condition ever because he would have whipped my butt for ever letting it get that wayNeedless to say i am going to collect my money and be way too busy to work for this jerk ever again ...Not going to be doing the part for the spreader he can get someone else to do it screw himBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Tell him if you want this kind of abuse you would have stayed at home! Regards,RobGreat Basin WeldingInstagramBlue weldersRed weldersMy luscious Table DIY TIG Torch cooler
Reply:You can Always tell that the 1/2 " plate your welding is hot enough when it does this ...And no i don't recommend doing this ....It stings...Alot ...And even more when you clean it and put burn spray on it....OuchBacked my CATMA over your CARMA oops clusmy me  What would SATAN do ?? Miller Trailblazer 302 AirPakMiller Digital Elite  Optrel Welding HatArcair K4000Suitcase 12RC / 12 VSHypertherm PM-45Rage 3 sawRusty old Truck
Reply:Ooozy. Well done Regards,RobGreat Basin WeldingInstagramBlue weldersRed weldersMy luscious Table DIY TIG Torch cooler
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Again, looks at me like I'm crazy. He ended up begrudgingly giving me a personal check because he had no access to petty cash and I didn't have a credit card machine in my back pocket. All this for a $45 charge. Again dude just bitched, and bitched, and bitched about having to write me a check for $45 bux the entire time I was dragging up. Needless to say, they didn't call me back. Funny as hell how a multi million dollar property management company with over a dozen franchises in one of the most expensive companies to franchise with would be that pathetically tight. I saw some of their stainless junk in my buddies shop awhile back, I asked him if it was theirs. He rolled his eyes and said, yeah...
Reply:Damn fine burn there!SqWave 200Millermatic 190Airco 200 ACHypertherm PM45Boice-Crane Band SawVictor O/A
Reply:Yeah on the subject of people being cheap. Had a guy at my day job ask me "Hey how much would you charge me to weld the bracket on the exhaust on my car?"I do calculations in my head. 1. Its a car, price goes up. 2. Exhaust on car, price goes up. 3. He asked, price goes up. "75 dollars", I replied. He looked shocked and asked "Why so much, the muffler shop only wants 10 bucks." I shrugged and walked away. Life's too short for me to be wallowing on the ground under you sedan tacking the friggin' muffler hanger. Ranger 250 GXTSmith Gas Axe
Reply:KD what paver did that come off of?   Looks like Lee Boy 8000?   What he should be hiring you to do is cut the lips off of the beds of the dump trucks and he'll not have to pay you to straighten out his paver again.Lincoln Electric:Ranger GXT 250SA-200LN-25Pro MiG 256Pro Mig 180Esab CV 251Invertec 160Victor Torches”
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749The reality of it is, he took it to the muffler shop and they told him to get the hell out of there when he balked at $100 People suck for the most part I think having a fair amount of self respect really helps you in situations like that because anyone that had even the slightest amount of it for you would never have insulted you with such a statement. If that individual had such a little amount of respect for you, you would have less for yourself doing the job.IMHO of course