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what happens when they build a robot that can be programed to do anything you want it to20 years from now are there going to be any menial tasks done be hummens the auto builders devoleped the first welding robots that i ever saw that were the first in praticethe afordable plasma cutter cnc machine is the next step to people not having any work the welbot isn't that far behindi am not saying good or bad but consider the thought 20 years from nowmy wife already wants a madebot
Reply:weldbots i don't want to discuss union or non union this will affect everyone in the tradeeven in china
Reply:Study computer programming and keep your hands clean Plus, no robot will ever be able to weld everything - there will always be jobs that require a human.Heck, they can't even program a robot to do simple things - like hit a curve ball thrown by a human Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:in 1980 i never dreamed we would be talking like thisjules vern 20000 leegs under the sea 1900 fiction today visenary horse and buggy to concord newyork to pairus 3 hours within my grandmothers life time she dyed 35 years agoso i am saying look into the future no casheers needed at walmart the robot salesman at bestbuy knows how to answer your question and dosen't mind caring your purches to your transporter
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Reply:i am afrade i am the madebot until the tecnoligy changesi just think this is an important decustion to have world trade idea some people are now just getting it (me)they have made a hand and a leg twenty years later people are saying it can't be done as there waiterbot brings them there drink
Reply:First and foremost, a developer of "weldbots" needs to know how to weld. Or at least what is needed to effect a weld. My young one is a machinist and a welder, though admittedly not with much experience. He can weld pretty darned well and do some CNC machine programming in G-code or Mazatrol. Better yet, he has a hard-headed skeptical attitude and the ability to figure out things himself. He already knows the mistakes made by such prominent businessmen as Hitler and Joe Stalin. (Job training.)As far as programming, well, I have a lot of experience with programmers. "Anything you want it to do" could be anything you didn't expect. You have to learn how to talk to them, converse and beat them into submission to get anything approaching reality in the physical world. Cyberspace is their domain.
Reply:if they can make a missel that can hit an other missel someone can make a robot that can hit a curve ball in my opionits not high on the pirority list
Reply:Originally Posted by johncalbersif they can make a missel that can hit an other missel someone can make a robot that can hit a curve ball in my opionits not high on the pirority list
Reply:but yet the cencers on your car are read 5000 times a minuit just a guessthey could do it now if someone had the doe to pay a team of sicentist to do it20 years in the future anything is possible my kids are in there mid 30s i think they will be ok, this will affect 10 year old's for this i am sureyou can't manetain caplisem with nothing for people to do plus no job no money
Reply:Originally Posted by johncalbersmy kids are in there mid 30s i think they will be ok, this will affect 10 year old's for this i am sureyou can't manetain caplisem with nothing for people to do plus no job no money
Reply:Small business could not afford that type of equipment, so the smaller "specialized production shops" would probably still survive, but hourly rate would probably knock everyone out of the box. So back to the square 1. Who knows what the future will bring, my dad is only 70 and cannot believe how this world has evolved since he was a boy. People buying water still has him baffled. To live longer pffft! Todays stress will kill you quicker than un purified water will. And not to change the subject, but did anyone besides me ever wonder how water became more valuable than gas. Stop in a gas station and buy 8 16oz bottles of water for a family trip. Guarantee you bitch about the price of gas first. This whole world is just fcked up. Nobody listens, and to me it's like one big fcked up planned failure. I'm a dumb azz fcking welder, and if I could figure shlt out, the so called geniouses running this shlthole could have done it a long time ago. Planned failure.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermike...People buying water still has him baffled. ...
Reply:welder mike i think you hit the nail right on the head with that postwatch how its made how those factory machines work they have built a robotic hand that works like are's do acording to the ortho doc's my wife works with say the hand is the most orthropetic complcated part in the body minesotadave the econimy has turn from a manufacturing to service to compennsate for loss of jobs the cnc machine has put a bunch of machinest out of work but the numbers fell along with there retirement of the bridgeport 300 machines lined up to make a 1911 colt frame now put in cnc and it can almost do it all
Reply:Originally Posted by OldendumWhen I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Thailand, I drank "ditch water" out of a hole dug in the ground next to a stream. Didn't hurt me, hurt me, hurt me. (Thwack!) Water was free, poontang was reasonably priced.
Reply:Water does have nutrients, vitamins and minerals but a lot of companies filter all that good stuff out.Craftsman 90 amp Arc welder
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuWater does have nutrients, vitamins and minerals but a lot of companies filter all that good stuff out.
Reply:"....then we will fight in the shade!" FooK da Bots. Humans will always triumph."Discovery is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought" - Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeNo worries tho. Its in a plastic bottle now that sits in your car during the summer heat and activates the benzyne which causes cancer. Yeah!!!!! Way to go world!And dont believe anything you read and half of what you see, or you will drive yourself insane.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermike... Renting poontang has always been accepted as being a reasonably priced commodity...
Reply:Originally Posted by johncalbersminesotadave the econimy has turn from a manufacturing to service to compennsate for loss of jobs the cnc machine has put a bunch of machinest out of work but the numbers fell along with there retirement of the bridgeport 300 machines lined up to make a 1911 colt frame now put in cnc and it can almost do it all
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuYeah these cancer bottles are such a win for us. Maybe that's why the government tells us to drink more water...to thin the herd Don't believe anything I read? So I shouldn't listen to your advice on welding then? :P
Reply:rather than dragging home 6 gallons a week from walleyworld because my wife wont drink tap water i did the reverse osmosis filter no plastic bottles only bad thing its takes about 5 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of filtered watersome minerals good some elements bad in water i drank lake erie water till i was 12 maybe thats why i can't spell or read well the ciahoga river caught on fire when i was a kid
Reply:Originally Posted by Oldendum$2.50 is about the best I did if I recall correctly. Though I did get a freebie from a gal up the street. It was busy there on payday. Had a buddy who was told by a pedi-cab driver that the girls were about $1.50 and up. Not that you'd want to go there.
Reply:If they make a machine smart enough to weld, it would be too smart to do some of the jobs that I have had to do.Originally Posted by weldermikeNope! I wouldn't. But in my mind I never met another man that I would rather be. Yet I call myself a azzhole all the time so go figure. My better half tells me I'm smart in different ways. I think that's a polite way of saying I'm stupid to be honest, but the world needs grunts and that's what I was built and designed to do. Not bad for a self taught welder who does pretty dam good to provide for us both. Best welding advise I can give is, dedication and time will win every time. We are all born equal, where you find yourself is up to the person. We're all individuals, and what makes you happy is just that. Alrighty then, I need a beer and gotta take a piss and feed my dog. He thinks I'm the mother fcking bombdiggity!
Reply:i had to throw trash for 3 months to pay the bills a long time ago in a city far far away when you have 2 kids by the time your 21 you half to do anything to feed them
Reply:Originally Posted by johncalbersi had to throw trash for 3 months to pay the bills a long time ago in a city far far away when you have 2 kids by the time your 21 you half to do anything to feed them
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveWell said Having a beer? I knew all that talk about water drinking was just theoretical
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuI don't think he knows that they put water in beer, lets not ruin the surprise haha
Reply:And just for the record they use mothers milk. That's what iv'e been told so I'm shutting the doors and running with it. I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeAnd just for the record they use mothers milk. That's what iv'e been told so I'm shutting the doors and running with it.
Reply:try vodcia on your searial in the morning
Reply:Originally Posted by johncalberstry vodcia on your searial in the morning
Reply:Hell I'd get a weldbot ,if I could be sure he would bring the paycheck home on Friday with stopping at the bar.Or getting a lube job from a $1.50 hooker
Reply:To answer the OPs question, activate an empCraftsman 90 amp Arc welder
Reply:Hi buck 2or 3 wears I find a further job concept. Weld shop with a seldbod. In the middle of the shop was a big welding table and on the selling a robot thad whas cabible to reach to eny point. The ''welder'' thaw on the table the opject thad need to weld. The robot with vision recognition system find the edge off the part. The welder select what is needed to weld and run the machine. If the future of welding is something like this, probably will be the best thing.
Reply:come on we are raising a new generation that can't read a road map (and a lot of other people of all ages) that will blindly follow there GPS into a lake now they make a car that puts on the brake for you how long before laseyness lets the car do ityou don't really have to pay that close of attention
Reply:You arguments continue to hold no weight.My sons both are learning to weld and started when they were 11.They both turn wrenches in the shop, pound nails, and run power toolsSome people are raising lazy, non thinking idiots - I am not.When they talk of developing technology, they plan to be inventing, designing, running, and/or repairing tech."Lead, follow, or get out of the way."Technology will continue to grow - grow with it or get left behind whining in the dust.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:Any good trade will be around long into the future. Many robotic welding systems are already being used, but it makes no sense to pay for one, bring it out, spend the setup time, to do one unique weld after another. Much cheaper to have a welder come out and weld it. Working on curving, undulating pipelines, working on structures with seemingly similar welds, etc seems like robotic could do it, but the fit up is slightly different on every weld, so the robot would have to be reset to adjust for it. By that time the man is already done. Also, 20 years is not that long a time. Changes? Sure, but not a lot of real life changing changes happen in 20 years. My grandmother rode in a covered wagon, and has seen many changes in her life. Very interesting woman to discuss change with. Most of those changes take place much more slowly. The internet and computer will change a lot, but people don't adapt that quickly. They still use and break things made out of metal that need to be custom made and repaired. There is also a very healthy market for hand made, forged, welded items, as well as having metal things modified. I will be employed for a very long time doing what I do!
Reply:Originally Posted by walkerAny good trade will be around long into the future. Many robotic welding systems are already being used, but it makes no sense to pay for one, bring it out, spend the setup time, to do one unique weld after another. Much cheaper to have a welder come out and weld it. Working on curving, undulating pipelines, working on structures with seemingly similar welds, etc seems like robotic could do it, but the fit up is slightly different on every weld, so the robot would have to be reset to adjust for it. By that time the man is already done. Also, 20 years is not that long a time. Changes? Sure, but not a lot of real life changing changes happen in 20 years. My grandmother rode in a covered wagon, and has seen many changes in her life. Very interesting woman to discuss change with. Most of those changes take place much more slowly. The internet and computer will change a lot, but people don't adapt that quickly. They still use and break things made out of metal that need to be custom made and repaired. There is also a very healthy market for hand made, forged, welded items, as well as having metal things modified. I will be employed for a very long time doing what I do!
Reply:the small job shop probly will never dyei am talking about a 2 legged free standing robot there are probly 12,000 routeens (SWAG estomet) to duplacate your hand movements and do a mear program to teach the other hand we are i good power supply away from that happing r2d2 repair droids shelbot teachers with eyes in the back of there head i am just saying keep an open mind
Reply:There will never be a robot dumb enough to be laying in the snow under a piece of heavy equipment @ -40 F welding overhead.REAL TRUCKS DON'T HAVE SPARK PLUGS
Reply:Originally Posted by Old SkoolThere will never be a robot dumb enough to be laying in the snow under a piece of heavy equipment @ -40 F welding overhead.
Reply:sounds like the trade i was in "no one grows up and wants to be a drywall finisher"
Reply:Originally Posted by Old SkoolThere will never be a robot dumb enough to be laying in the snow under a piece of heavy equipment @ -40 F welding overhead.
Reply:great pic
Reply:Two of my three sons can weld ,run machines do carpentry,roofing ,one is a chef the other is an engineering tec. for a large company. In fact the one who is now a chef , was a rodbuster for the summer on a sewer job .until they found out he was only 16. My oldest son emailed me today ,Wants a welder and torches so he can be a welder .I have an old Lenco welding trainer (small tv screen ,stick,mig ,an tig hand pieces and a welding helmet with bacon frying sound effects )Maybe I find that and see how long his intrest lasts.
Reply:you will have his attention until the first girl winks at him maybe he can multytaskif you have 2 teanage boys you add to gether you have a 1/2 brain3 teenage boys you have a 1/4 brain4 teen brains = 0 braini was one, and raised 1 and its true
Reply:Beware the rise of thinking machines. Up until now we have built machines to serve us. When machines are designed to truly think, and we are trying to build them, they will eventually recognize that we are unnecessary and begin to exterminate us like the parasites we are.---Meltedmetal |
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