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Hey guys. Wish I had a truck to use with my welding business but I don't. So this is what I'm working with :I've been thinking about making a mount inside and leaving the mig bottle inside my cruiser full time. Maybe a argon bottle too for tig work. Entering into winter, I'm not worried about it warming up too much inside the cab (I probably wouldn't do this during summer, but could I?)So my question is: is this safe? What could happen, a small leak causing asphyxiation? No explosion possible right? I don't plan on leaving the regulator on while in transport. And I wouldn't be asking this q if we were talking about oxy fuel.Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:I transport all kinds of gasses inside my sedan. Assuming the risks for the run from the shop to the LWS and back.But everyday? Seems a bit riskier than I would like. I believe argon is heavier than air and there is no odor (propane-added, acetylene naturally stinks). And CO2 is undetectable by humans.Put me down as a vote for "unnecessary risk". Find a better way.Be wary of The Numbers: Figures don't lie,. but liars can figure.Welders:2008 Lincoln 140 GMAW&FCAW2012 HF 165 'toy' GTAW&SMAW1970's Cobbled together O/A
Reply:Not safe. You should set up some way to haul it outside the vehicle, like on a roof rack, or one of those baskets to go in a trailer hitch.Ian TannerKawasaki KX450 and many other fine tools
Reply:As long as it is secure properly I would do it.
Reply:There are two risks I see: first, if you wreck and the valve gets sheared off, that thing will disembowel or crush you. Second is the asphyxiation issue. I would worry much more about #1. You could always roll with the air on or a window open to prevent asphyxiation. Very few vehicles are air tight and most are built with air exhausts in the rear end somewhere.Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:And how do you run that trailblazer? Is the exhaust ported through the roof or something? Is this a joke?Miller Multimatic 255
Reply:I think you will be fine with some precautions. What could happen:-temp over ~120*F, relief valve blows-leak causes asphyxiation-crash knocks valve off tank-crash throws tanks forwardIf you securely mount the tanks facing the opposite direction if your pics, and have some degree of forced air ventilation (independant of AC) while you are in the car, that should eliminate some of the risk.You will still have to remove the MIG tank from the vehicle to use it, but you can leave the argon tank horizontal and use it.Sent from my S4 using TapatalkLast edited by njs552; 11-18-2015 at 05:34 PM.1988 Big 50 Diesel CC/CV1982 Weldanpower 225/2101968 SAE 300 motor generatorMaxstar 200SD2015 AHP 200x"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
Reply:Originally Posted by Louie1961And how do you run that trailblazer? Is the exhaust ported through the roof or something? Is this a joke?
Reply:There's an old saying that escapes me, but something about a cart and a horse.
Reply:Is it April 1st already?! Not to mention it's a violation of DOT regs to carry a tank inside an enclosed vehicle.A few weldersA lot of hammersA whole lot of C-clamps
Reply:Dude you need a trailer. An enclosed one maybe with exhaust exit, if you need or want to keep them out of sight and locked. That's some tight quarters there.Thermal Arc 210 - Tweco 211I - Cutmaster 52
Reply:I'm a firefighter and responded to an accident involving an hvac service van. Guy carried all his tools and gas cylinders inside. Even with a protective cargo divider installed- it was no match or all that loose weight flying around when he drove off the roadway. It was a fatality- smashed his head flater than a pancake. You are on borrowed time working out of a van loaded with that equipment.
Reply:I am thinking the suspension tolerances are close to max as it sets. Must lean into the corners pretty good, is it front wheel drive also? yikes! Driving in the snow and ice ........ fun stuff to think about right there.With that nice welder build a trailer, buy a used one modify to fit your needs. That set up reminds me of the guys that drive around in the cars that do parking lot collision repairs.Magazines have issues, everything else has problems
Reply:Originally Posted by Silicon-basedIs it April 1st already?! Not to mention it's a violation of DOT regs to carry a tank inside an enclosed vehicle.
Reply:It is foolish to have any loose objects in a vehicle. Change, cell phone etc.
Reply:its called population control...Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most...I know just enough about everything to be dangerous......You cant cure stupid..only kill it...
Reply:Originally Posted by roadkillbobbits called population control...
Reply:Originally Posted by Louie1961And how do you run that trailblazer? Is the exhaust ported through the roof or something? Is this a joke?
Reply:I always have that concern when i carry **** inside the cab. Get into an accident and heavy things are missles. I have the trailblazer mounted to the body with large plates on the underside to act as big washers so i feel im as safe as i can be there. The gas bottles i secure with tie downs when en route, but thats the thing tie downs are not very secure (when in accident) so i was thinking of building a metal rack for the gas bottles so i could leave it in there and have them be much more secure in a accident. By the way im looking at military m101 trailers and the canadian m101 or 416? I think its called. There popular with the 4x4 guys as a trailer for all my gear. Just trying to find something sub 500 bones.Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Manokai when u gonna chime in about my setup? LolDynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:$4000 Dynasty 200DX (2014) $1200 Millermatic 211 (2015)$350 Optrel 864 (2014)$350 Smith/Miller OxyAcetylene outfit. Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)$1000 Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)$5500 Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel______$12,400When making decisions to purchase above items, you never stopped and thought maybe I should spend $500 - $1000 for a trailer? I'm with others, is the next post going to be APRIL FOOLS!!!!! and there will be a picture of a new 1 ton flatbed rigged out?
Reply:It might be unorthodox but it beats a thousand dollar a month truck payment in at least one sense.
Reply:Originally Posted by mikecwikit beats a thousand dollar a month truck payment
Reply:Even a harbor freight trailer with a decent deck would work better than this...Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Might as well go to the source to buy the trailer you want. http://www.govliquidation.com/bu/locations/Tiger Sales: AHP Distributor www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P, Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma. For Sale: Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun. Lincoln Wirematic 250Originally Posted by PipelinerA trailer is a $500 - $1000 one time purchase. Hell an enclosed trailer might be $2000.Either this whole thing is a joke or Bob is on to something.
Reply:Originally Posted by PipelinerA trailer is a $500 - $1000 one time purchase. Hell an enclosed trailer might be $2000.
Reply:Guys no early april fools joke. And I'm not cheaping out on a trailer either, just haven't decided what to buy yet. If I end up laying down 1k on a trailer then I will. But I'm starting to think I'm going to build my own. -for the fun of it and so I can get what I want.Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Originally Posted by Pipeliner$4000 Dynasty 200DX (2014) $1200 Millermatic 211 (2015)$350 Optrel 864 (2014)$350 Smith/Miller OxyAcetylene outfit. Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)$1000 Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)$5500 Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel______$12,400When making decisions to purchase above items, you never stopped and thought maybe I should spend $500 - $1000 for a trailer? I'm with others, is the next post going to be APRIL FOOLS!!!!! and there will be a picture of a new 1 ton flatbed rigged out?
Reply:at least he is hauling around decent heavy equipment 1st on WeldingWeb to have a scrolling sig! HTP Invertig 400HTP Invertig 221HTP ProPulse 300HTP ProPulse 200 x2HTP ProPulse 220MTSHTP Inverarc 200TLP HTP Microcut 875SC
Reply:What ya gonna tow the trailer with?Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:I think you would look more professional with it in the van than showing up with a junk angle iron trailer trailer. Just need maybe to balance it out and make it a bit safer.
Reply:'' The fact is that I only even got into welding about 1 year ago''AHHHHHHHHHHHH, welding a whole year ??? And next will be welding up a trailer ? You think this post is something, well.................... As for your current setup, will have to wait and see if the Poolice stop you for something and look inside, might be on your way to go buy a trailer.
Reply:Originally Posted by mikecwikI think you would look more professional with it in the van than showing up with a junk angle iron trailer trailer. Just need maybe to balance it out and make it a bit safer.
Reply:Originally Posted by BD1'' The fact is that I only even got into welding about 1 year ago''AHHHHHHHHHHHH, welding a whole year ??? And next will be welding up a trailer ? You think this post is something, well.................... As for your current setup, will have to wait and see if the Poolice stop you for something and look inside, might be on your way to go buy a trailer.
Reply:Wow I thought I was cheap . Buy a used trailer run it till you decide on something else sell the trailer get your money back. That is sketchy Sent from my C811 4G using TapatalkVantage 300 kubota ,miller 304 xmt ,lincoln ln 25 pro , ranger 305 G, plenty of other tools of the trade to make the sparks fly.
Reply:I saw a good setup in an AT&T van a few weeks ago. They had an explosion proof cabinet mounted to the truck with vents out the top and bottom for fumes. They carry acetylene tanks for the shrink tubing they use for repairs. I carried two or more acetylene tanks for air/gas torch setup for 20 years without a problem but don't think I would any more, except when absolutely necessary. I don't know if you use the van for anything else but that would be one solution.
Reply:Originally Posted by mikecwikI think you would look more professional with it in the van than showing up with a junk angle iron trailer trailer. Just need maybe to balance it out and make it a bit safer.
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortnext in line for my sig is: Trailer. For all the **** listed above. So give me a break!
Reply:Originally Posted by GmmandanWow I thought I was cheap . Buy a used trailer run it till you decide on something else sell the trailer get your money back. That is sketchy Sent from my C811 4G using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortYa, decisions, decisions. Ed conley: be towing it with my toyota landcruiser.
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortYes sir. And if I decide to build my own trailer Ill post some pics of my welds. I can lay down some pretty good looking welds now. ...And yes make them properly with full penetration etc.
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortGosh I wish! Gives me a idea for a prank though haha. But some of you here are starting to make me feel bad about my setup. The fact is that I only even got into welding about 1 year ago and the equip I have is a product of saving,-some like the trailblazer I saved for months so I could buy it. Also, I really only went full bore into this business I started about 2 months ago. And next in line for my sig is: Trailer. For all the **** listed above. So give me a break!
Reply:Originally Posted by roadkillbobbdo you have business insurance on your welding company?
Reply:up to 1 mil. liability. No inspection of my shop or equipment and it's only about 700 a year.Getting a little off track here with the bashing of my stuff road kill. I'm not responding to anything else thats not related to my op question. Thanks for any helpfull comments so far, I'll figure it out from here.Last edited by outdoort; 11-19-2015 at 07:53 PM.Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:You came and asked on a forum. What did you expect? Get a loan for a trailer or a truck. Doesn't have to be fancy but your customers may have reservations about hiring you when they see your set up. How you show up on the job says a lot about what people will think and also does your advertising. Do you need to be a licensed welder to advertise in your area? Add the cables and other tools and such and you're over $13,000.
Reply:Im pretty sure my LWS would tell you to hit the street. Ive never been on a job site, where the safety inspector wouldnt go through the roof if he seen that setup! Dont pay any attention to meIm just a hobbyist!CarlDynasty 300V350-Pro w/pulseSG Spool gun1937 IdealArc-300PowerArc 200ST3 SA-200sVantage 400
Reply:outdoortIt was nice knowing you . . .Opus
Reply:Originally Posted by Broccoli1What ya gonna tow the trailer with?
Reply:x2 on the http://www.govliquidation.com/bu/locations/ for the trailer you said.Thermal Arc 210 - Tweco 211I - Cutmaster 52 |
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