old champion drill press needs help

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I have a old, old champion forge and blower 20" drill press. The thing has been a beast well today it broke the bevel gears for the spindle drive. The in put gear shouldnt be hard to find it is just a 24t gear. The spindle gear though is a 40 tooth 1 1/4 bore with a 4" extended hub. Anyone know where a guy can get something like this. The drill press is early 1900's with 3" wide flat drive belts. Any help would be greatMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Post pics of the big gear, gears can be found and adapted.
Reply:Look anything like this? This has been sitting in my shop as long as I can remember. And we're out of room so it needs a new home. The gears are pretty worn though, so I don't think they would be of much use to you.IW Local 580 NY, NY
Reply:Yup mine is used for everything from1/4 to 1" twist bits and up to 3" holesawsMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Jeez, too bad you're not closer. The last thing we want to do is scrap it, but who knows. I found a few sites to list it on. Money's not even the issue, I just hate to let good machinery go. In 23 years, I've never seen it run, but from what my father said it worked nice. With the mag drills there's no reason for us to have it though.IW Local 580 NY, NY
Reply:You might have luck trying a bearing house.  Often spur gears are standard and can be purchased out of a Browning catalogue.  It still will need to be bored and machined to fit the shaft.  If you can take the gears to them they can identify the pitch etc.
Reply:Some of the parts for this old equipment are harder to find substitutes for than to fix, to machine new from steel, or to recast using the originals glued together as models, coating them with wax first to allow for shrinkage. Any pictures of either the whole drill or of the part or better yet, of both? Maybe those could lead to better detailed suggestions of what to do.
Reply:Going to stop at a local machinest to see what he says will have to see if I can figure out the picture posting thingMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Originally Posted by farmshopGoing to stop at a local machinest to see what he says will have to see if I can figure out the picture posting thing
Reply:If you can work around the extended hub by using a "QD" or taper lock bushing, 40 tooth stock bevels are around in 6 or 8 pitch 20 degree pressure angle. Check with Ohio, Martin or Boston Gear.If you have a different pressure angle on the teeth or a goof ball pitch or really need a solid extended hub... Call Dick at Productigear in Chicago at 773-847-4505, expect the prices to range +20% over stock gears.Good luckMatt
Reply:Hi all, this is almost the same drill as I've got that I'm going to pass on as I don't have a use for it anymore......3 morse taper, big flat belt drive, typical of the old workshop type.I toyed with the idea of converting it to the same drive method as a regular bench drill with a vertical motor driving to a big vee pulley on the spindle instead of the horizontal bevel gear drive, and using a compound  pulley set-up to give 16 speeds etc......never got around to it......'specially as I retired and only do hobby stuff now for fun.I could never hack the long flat belt set-up with the motor on the floor, it would have been far neater if the drive had been top side, probably through a 4 step pulley and back gear to give 8 speeds.I reckon if I were still in the business and wanted to use it, I would seriously consider reworking the design as above.....the machine has massive capability to drill and bore hole etc, and with the big rotating table and geared lift it's almost as versatile as a radial arm drill.Ian.
Reply:Originally Posted by puddytatHi all, this is almost the same drill as I've got that I'm going to pass on as I don't have a use for it anymore......3 morse taper, big flat belt drive, typical of the old workshop type.I toyed with the idea of converting it to the same drive method as a regular bench drill with a vertical motor driving to a big vee pulley on the spindle instead of the horizontal bevel gear drive, and using a compound  pulley set-up to give 16 speeds etc......never got around to it......'specially as I retired and only do hobby stuff now for fun.I could never hack the long flat belt set-up with the motor on the floor, it would have been far neater if the drive had been top side, probably through a 4 step pulley and back gear to give 8 speeds.I reckon if I were still in the business and wanted to use it, I would seriously consider reworking the design as above.....the machine has massive capability to drill and bore hole etc, and with the big rotating table and geared lift it's almost as versatile as a radial arm drill.Ian.