Welding pix from a multi-million dollar yacht build

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I'm working on a complete refit of an old Chris Craft Roamer 46 (aluminum hull), but there's a custom sportfisherman builder nearby. The painter and fairing crew at that shop are the guys who faired and painted my boat. I figured if they paint boats that sell for millions of dollars, they should be able to do my old beater...and, in fact, they did a fine job. But I was at the shop over the weekend picking up some parts I had the painter working on. He does this stuff in his spare time, nights and weekends. So as I'm waiting for him to bring the parts, I looked over and saw the engine beds that the shop fabricator/machinist is making for their next boat: a 95-footer that will come with twin 2600hp MTUs. I'd only seen them before on other boats after the engine beds had been faired, primed, and painted. It was interesting to see them before the painter makes 'em pretty. First, imagine paying $10million for the boat, then...behold the awesomeness.Five pix is the limit.Thoughts?Cheers,Q1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 RefitMiller TB280 w/Spoolmatic 30a2016 AHP AlphaTIG 200XAncient Millermatic 35Zeny Cut50 plasma cutter
Reply:Can you spell Coast Guard??"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
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Reply:And yet, the same guy has been doing this work on these boats for years! The manufacturer has an absolutely sterling reputation. And 15 years down the line, none of these highly powered boats (e.g. an 80-footer with a top speed of 45mph) has ever rattled those welds apart.Maybe this puts all of the WW trailer threads, with their predictions of gloom, doom, and certain death into perspective...1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 RefitMiller TB280 w/Spoolmatic 30a2016 AHP AlphaTIG 200XAncient Millermatic 35Zeny Cut50 plasma cutter
Reply:Good enough to sip martinis on twice a year, whats the problem? lolWelding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:Those boats probably spend more time at the docks then on the ocean. Goodness, some of my welds are better then that and I've got less than a week's experience. Maybe I should start selling boats, only $20 million each. I'll start taking pre orders right now.  P.S. I offer a $5 million discount for members of WW Craftsman 90 amp Arc welder
Reply:Originally Posted by q240zAnd yet, the same guy has been doing this work on these boats for years! The manufacturer has an absolutely sterling reputation. And 15 years down the line, none of these highly powered boats (e.g. an 80-footer with a top speed of 45mph) has ever rattled those welds apart.Maybe this puts all of the WW trailer threads, with their predictions of gloom, doom, and certain death into perspective...
Reply:On the flip side..........I know a couple of guys around here that do a lot of welding.  All oilfield related.  They're absolute artists.I've taken pics of their work, and posted them here.  Nice stuff.These guys aren't into the internet, and don't do anything but do their jobs.  So you really never see the type of quality that they do.]But, funny thing.........I usually get this from my bud over where K'kins works, when I've put some of his work up......."Well, did it pass inspection??"  Would probably kill the guy if someone said something bad about his workWe're both "finger" dooooods  Gotta run your finger over someone elses welds to see if they're good.  (feeling if a fillet has equal legs).  That's how I got started talking to the guy.  Went down to the shop one day while waiting on K'kins for lunch, and looked at some stuff that was ongoing.  I felt the welds, and he started telling me that they were ok, and spot on.  Little bit of defensive thing goin' on thereBut he does the same to stuff that is mineField Res said it best........."Welders are like crows""Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Hope they got good insurance.  So when it sinks the first time it sets sail they are reimbursed.   That's worse the Tesla welding I posted a while backTiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by soutthpawHope they got good insurance.  So when it sinks the first time it sets sail they are reimbursed.   That's worse the Tesla welding I posted a while back
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverGood enough to sip martinis on twice a year, whats the problem? lol
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I'm sure that fabricator is an accredited AAACE Member.....
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I'm sure that fabricator is an accredited AAACE Member.....
Reply:Are you die grinding the welds off and redoing them?Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:I am not into ship building but I have a friend who is the welding engineer in a large shipyard.He has told me that the locations of the NDT in a ship is pre-defined. This means that the best welders are used to weld these areas.This is nothing like my field where either all the welds are NDTed or the percentage tested must include an equal percentage of the welds performed by each welder (so if the quality plan calls for 5% RT of all butt welds then this 5% should consist of 5% for each WPS and 5% for each welder).The ship building practice on the other hand can allow for a welder to rarely have to pass NDT during production.As was explained to me though the areas tested were the high stress areas which were the most critical for a ship's integrity.When I proposed that they should at least make some extra random checks the answer was simple: This would increase the cost so NO.
Reply:Wow, those welds make me cringe!
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverAre you die grinding the welds off and redoing them?
Reply:Weld look good! Send her to sea!12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:Nothing a good weave pass of urethane caulk won't fix.
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekku Maybe I should start selling boats, only $20 million each. I'll start taking pre orders right now.  P.S. I offer a $5 million discount for members of WW
Reply:Here's what they usually look like after there installed.
Reply:Not even close to the appearance of quality a good fairing crew can provide. Here's a shot of an 80-footer's ER from the same shop. Check out that beautiful engine bed!1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 RefitMiller TB280 w/Spoolmatic 30a2016 AHP AlphaTIG 200XAncient Millermatic 35Zeny Cut50 plasma cutter
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauOK then, but I only want a 5 million dollar boat, just to help you get started out on making the first boat. So with my WW discount, I get it....................FOR FREE!!!!  I'll get with you later on the design details.
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuI have a feeling that my shipping and handling fees would kill you
Reply:Originally Posted by q240zNot even close to the appearance of quality a good fairing crew can provide. Here's a shot of an 80-footer's ER from the same shop. Check out that beautiful engine bed!I'd rather see thick, durable, sponge rubber matting than carpet. Looks good though.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauI'll come get it. I have a Miller Matic 140 I can build a trailer with, to haul it on. Do you live near a navigable river?
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauCarpet in an engine room???? Never seen THAT before, and I have been in a few engine rooms before. Just wait till a few oil stains start showing up.
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuNope. Heck you'd probably have to pay for quite the hauler to get it out of here.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauNow it's starting to sound like you are trying to weasel out of my WW member discount on this build. I already have a good idea of the design I am wanting. It won't be ocean going, but for the inland river system, if that helps some with the build idea.
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuHell no. I just can't imagine it would be easy to get a $5 million dollar boat down the sketchy dirt road I live on.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauGo back and read my edited portion, and maybe we can work something out. I may even come help with the build some and bring my own equipment.
Reply:Originally Posted by lighttekkuHaha priceless. If I ever get skilled enough to actually build a boat I'd definitely work on one fore you just for the experience
Reply:Right now the lake is down 7 feet from pool stage, so if the basic hull can be completed before the lake refills then that would be great. I have a large flat firm area right in front of my boat ramp to build on.
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauSee, I'm trying to help you get started in this direction. Start collecting material for this build so you can get some experience with it. I would prefer steel over aluminum though. We may have to do this build at my place, as I live on a lake(of my user name) and close to a river too. I have a couple of A frames and some chain hoists for material handling, to ease some of this work. I even have a little place to put you up in while working on this boat. I won't even charge you much to stay in it, much less than a local hotel, for sure.
Reply:Originally Posted by Bistineau...if the basic hull can be completed before the lake refills then that would be great...
Reply:Just remember anything that can go wrong at sea will go wrong and at the worst possible time.old Miller spectrum 625 Lincoln SP-135 T, CO2+0.025 wireMiller model 250 and WP-18V torchCraftsman 100amp AC/DC and WP-17V torchCentury 115-004 HF arc stabilizerHome made 4 transformer spot welderHome made alternator welder
Reply:Originally Posted by BistineauCarpet in an engine room???? Never seen THAT before, and I have been in a few engine rooms before. Just wait till a few oil stains start showing up.
Reply:Originally Posted by Firemanmike69I was in the engine room of a 95' sun seeker over the summer and before I went down below the captain warned me "be careful of the leak down there,it's pretty bad" there was a half dollar sized puddle of antifreeze on the thermostat housing surrounded by an entire box of those pig absorbent mats. His idea of a leak is fundamentally different than mine apparently
Reply:I get the impression that when money becomes no object, Kaleeefornia or not, some people just want perfection.The last 85-footer that went out the door in this shop was fully faired. By which I mean the outside as well as the inside of the hull. As in, they faired and filleted all corners...even behind the cabinets, in spaces you could only see if you took out the back wall of a cabinet. So, needless to say, they built the cabinets specifically so the back panels could be removed, presumably so the Russian dude who bought the boat could pull out one of the panels and show his somewhat less rich buddies how supremely awesome he is.But the thing is...over here at WW, we can see what lurks under that pretty paint and fairing compound on the engine beds.1969 Chris Craft Roamer 46 RefitMiller TB280 w/Spoolmatic 30a2016 AHP AlphaTIG 200XAncient Millermatic 35Zeny Cut50 plasma cutter