Some More Old Machinery

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Wouldn't say it's an antique, but it's getting thereUse this one (different machine than last one I put up) for tall heavy crop.The thing driving the sickle is/was called a "wobble box".  These were notorious for separating into multiple pieces when worn out  Some welding on this one when I rebuilt it just after buying it some years back (actually some pretty precise welding).  Anyhow, for those who haven't seen it, this is how these old things operate.For a strange year, the crop (Haygrazer) did fairly well, it's in the 5 1/2 to 6 foot tall range.  It can grow higher in a good year.  This year I planted late due to too much rain.  Normally this crop produces 2 cuttings a year, but this year due to the late planting I'm only getting one cutting.First go-around on the field perimeter.  You have to pull the mower directly behind the tractor on the first pass.  Can be hard to see where you're goingLooking out the back window on the first go-aroundToday wasn't to be my day I guess.  Got stuck in the mud.  We had heavy rain over the weekend, and again on Monday.  Probably take a few more days for the ground to dry out sufficiently to hold the tractor.  Barely got out of the mudhole  Up on "dry" ground.  Get one of these stuck, and it's an all day affair to get it out.Back to the house.  Guess save it for another day  Mother Nature always wins"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I am intrigued by older machinery and its operation. Some are very complex and are wonders of engineering. Please keep the pics coming.RegardsDave
Reply:The only time we ever cut hay that tall was the year we put in "ForageKing",  6' high, and it took forever for the ground to dry up under it.We stuck a New Holland swather 3 times in 2 days, the last time it took a 450 HP wheel tractor to get it out.Big fun!!The cows sure loved that stuff though. They would crowd around those bales, and ignore the alfalfa. Where are you that you are still cutting hay, everybody is done around here, and well into fall work.
Reply:Farmersamm 's hay is that tall because instead of farming he has be gossiping away on the welders web
Reply:My father had the same Hesston 1010 he bought new in '81. We retired it in 2006, thing had over 12,000 hours on it. I wish my fields looked like that.  All my Fescue is slowing down due to the colder weather, I'm on my last cutting of 150/400 acres.Proverbs 4:23My company welds.
Reply:I often wondered how often farmers run into stuff like ground bees while plowing or any kind of field work?12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829
Reply:Originally Posted by VPTI often wondered how often farmers run into stuff like ground bees while plowing or any kind of field work?
Reply:Oh the memories.  I cut my teeth cutting hay with an old Hesston 1014.  In its day it was a very good machine. Dad's was first hooked up to a John Deere 3020. Later it was on a 4020.  I was happy to see that beast head down the road.
Reply:That is very interesting.Old tools, trajan band saw, grizzly, delta,lincoln
Reply:A little off topic, but a fire department that I volunteered on got our '71 International (lovingly referred to as "The Beast") buried in mud up to the rear differential in the front of the fire department, after three hours of trying to get it out breaking several come-alongs we hooked up a Ford f-250 and managed to pull it out. Was quite the learning experience. Of course it would have been a lot easier to empty the 3000 gallons of water and then give it a try but none of us thought of that until after. Good times.Craftsman 90 amp Arc welder
Reply:I pulled a type 3 engine out with another type 3, an old AM General M35A.  I winched him out in short order.
Reply:Sam, those aren't hard to get un-stuck!
Reply:I've seen that vid before. Just don't make the pole too long or you'll flip a machine over backwards. Note that there is a chain holding the front end down on the initial revolution. There's lots of old equipment out there. I've got a 4020 with a blade that normally gets used for pushing snow. I got a free replaceable blade for the bottom from a grader operator that got stuck with some he didn't like because they were too brittle and cracked to easily. Not too surprising I managed to crack it (and the frame) playing bulldozer. We'll see if my welding lets go, or if it just cracks beside it next time around.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:That was a really interesting video.An old farmer once told me that you aren't really stuck if you can still get the tractor doors open.
Reply:Do you have the RFD TV channel?  They have a show on old machinery.  Several years ago they featured two farmers who back in the late 40s-early 50s built a huge disk harrow in a garage with only generator power for the welder and drill press.  They were still using it when the show was recorded.  I guess they forgot to ask on a forum if they were qualified to build it.
Reply:We used to wrap a chain around the axle on 1 wheel hooked to the rim and then hooked to a tree if possible or another tractor. You would then hold the brake on the other side wheel and let the chain wind around the axle. Pretty scary but it ussally worked. I had also seen old tires chained to the wheel to help pull the tractor out. The joys of working in clay ground.
Reply:farmersamm, I know its been a long time since the one way thread but did you ever use it? How did it work out?
Reply:Originally Posted by lars66farmersamm, I know its been a long time since the one way thread but did you ever use it? How did it work out?
Reply:That 1370 is a great tractor, owned one when I was farmi,g and loved it. One of the best pulling tractors out there. One bit of advice from a guy who's driven cases all my life and also from many of the case experts from the tractor sites I visit, use only CaseIN Hytran oil in the trany/rear end. Lots of other oils claim to be rated for use in cases, but will result in significantly shorter transmission life. There is something in the other oils that causes the transmission clutch discs to separate from the pads. A trany rebuild for that tractor is well over $5000.00. If you use the hytran they will last virtually forever tho since the gears almost never cause problems in those.Yeah, I know, but it'll be ok!Lincoln Square wave 255Miller Vintage mig30a spoolgunThermal Dynamics Pacmaster 100xl plasmaSmith mc torchEllis 1600 band saw
Reply:I'm always impressed with the thought you put into the cattle raising and farming operation. Also repairing the older equipment and making use of it.
Reply:we had a fordson diesel like that on the sod farm where I worked in 58. it would pull most anything but we always needed a second tractor to hold he front end down.miller thunderbolt 250vlincoln square wave tig 175 prolincoln idealarc mig sp250everlast tig 210EXTeverlast power plasma 50chicago electric (hf) 130 tig/90 arcchicago electric 90 amp flux wire3 sets oxy/acet