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Well here we have a new 09 Chevy Silverado Duramax 3500.I am building the flatbed from scratch. Main rails are 4"x3"x1/4" tubing, cross beams are 3"x2"x1/4" tubing. The tread plate is 1/4" thick. On the front 2' of the bed will be 1/2" plate. The crane will mount on the driver’s side towards the cab. The perimeter of the bed will be 8" structural channel. Here are some pics of the 8" channel and how the led lights will be install once they are cnc plasma cut. We are installing a knuckle boom crane. So that’s why I am beefing up a lot of areas, I am known for overkill, and this bed is going to weight around 2700-2800 in just metal.Here are pics of the crane and outriggers. The crane is a Big Max 130.2 All hydraulic with hyd. winch, and all wireless remote controls. And finally here are some pics of the welds. As soon as I get some more done I will post up some more pictures, and progress reports. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Looks like its going to be a nice rig. What line of work is the truck going to be doing most of the time?.............................."Look Good Doing It"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:It will be used in the oil patch, we operate over 100 wells at the moment, and all run off electricity so we go thru alot motors, and need some towing capacity to pull trailers loaded with rods and tubing, and other odds and ends kind of work. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:That should make your work eaiser. We probably will be using a gin truck forever for that type of work..............................."Look Good Doing It"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:That was the plan, as well as make motor swaps a one man operation w/o hurting yourself. The wireless remote was expensive but installing motors with it and making fine adjustments will be easy with this setup. Every time we look at the crane we think of a new way to use it. Will still have some big winch trucks to move tanks and units if needed. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:That's gonna be one nice truck when you're done. The crane is gonna make life simple. Most of the guys here have gin pole trucks.I couldn't tell by the pics, are you doing the entire build on the truck, or just key elements?I wondered how you'd be able to paint it. There's mega metal there, it's definitely going to be sturdyI have to attempt building a simple flatbed sometime down the road, and I'm not looking forward to it. If mine turns out as good as this one looks like it's progressing, I'll be one happy camper."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:I farmed out all the cnc plasma cutting to make the bed look as good as possible. Plus is takes alot less time for fit-up and finish. I will be using a front loader to lift the bed off the truck to paint it. I will be using POR-15 paint with their hard nose paint as a top coat. We use this stuff on our salt water pumps to keep them like new. I also ordered a front end replacement from tough country in texas. I ordered it un-coated, and will have to build the brush guard portion myself as I wanted something alittle different, and we like to be able to store one or two joints of pipe on the side of the truck, so I will be adding a 2" receiver tube to the front bumper and one at the front of the bed, and another at the rear. I have most of the tools I need to fabricate the whole thing, I just farm out some of it to speed up the process. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Sounds HEAVYVantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:nice truck where did you get the crane
Reply:Originally Posted by scapegoat I will be using POR-15 paint with their hard nose paint as a top coat. We use this stuff on our salt water pumps to keep them like new. I also ordered a front end replacement from tough country in texas.
Reply:Wow. keep us posted on the build. Looks like its comming along very nice!!Ya gotta spend money to make money!
Reply:I'll try to answer your questions.The Crane came from technacrane, http://www.cranes4u.ca/ (if that is spelled right) out of Canada, they told me it is made by a company called Ferrari in Italy, not the car makers. It's got a 12' reach fully extended, with 2 3' hydraulic extensions, and 1 manual extension arm. @12' it rated 700 pounds, 980 @ 9', 1450 @ 6', and 2450 @ 3', hydraulic winch is rated @ 1100 pounds, and 2200 doubled over. As far as the POR goes we have had good luck with it as long as you follow the instructions to the "T". I like to have all the metal sandblasted, and then wire-wheel it, use the their zinc metal prep, and prefer to spray it, on and before the second coat flashes, spray on the hardnosed coating , got to be careful not to coat to heavy and get inside your coat windows, about 4 coats total, if you get runs it doesn't work as well. I have hammered on a lot of our stuff that is coated, and if you hit a run it will chip, everywhere else it works good. I tried this stuff rather than powder coat, because here in Kansas all the brush guards powder coated have started to rust after a couple years. Had better luck, and cost less. Just takes more time. I like the frontier front ends, but the boss wanted a 4" pipe up front so I ordered one like this from tought countryI ordered w/o the winch plate, with some d rings welded on and smooth metal instead of diamond tread plate, and w/o the grille guard part, just the front bumper, I have a bender, and stuff to build the guard to look like the frontier for a chevy.Here is a link of thathttp://www.frontier-gear.com/html/Ch...BRGallery.htmlThanks again AndrewLast edited by scapegoat; 02-07-2009 at 04:00 PM.Reason: added part about front endHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Very nice work on that 09 looks like it going to almost be a piece of art when done.As for the POR products we use them all the time on the farm and in the shop.As for the front noses on our trucks, my jeep, and my rv I use either 3M or SEM clear ChipGuard. Sprays on and its great you could shoot stones at the stuff and it save the paint.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.& 2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:Update 1Well got a little more done. I picked up a headache rack from Winkle Manufacturing, in Glen Elder, KSI decided to buy one rather than try to build one as first it would save time. Second I liked the look of 2"x3" tubing. I must say I am really happy with my choice, I wish I could take credit for this one. And here is one from the frontHere is one looking from cab back, it will move to within 3-4" of the window. Once it is setting on top of the 1/2" Plate.Here is another picture of the outrigger with a bearing to help it glide in and out.Here are some pictures of Winkles welds.I also get some stuff from UPS. Here is a craftsman CPL box.And here is the remote to control the crane.I'll post up some more pics and info as i get it. I am not suppose to pick up the rest of the cnc plasma cut metal this next week. And go from there. Also there were some people asking about the lights. They are made by Maxxima. If that helps you. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Scapegoat, where are at in KS? My wife is from Newton.Here is what I have so Far:Miller:Shop Master 300 A A/C D/CS 22a Wire FeederRFC-14 Tig PedalHF-251D High Freq. UnitProfax 250 A Mig GunVictor RegulatorsHarris:63-2 torch Cutting Attachment 49-3making home built tig cooler
Reply:Well it sure sounds like your truck is going to be VERY Well equiped.Co-Own CNC shop:Miller :1251 plasma cutter, MaxStar 700 TIG/Stick, & XMT 456 Multiprocess Welder.& 2 Hypertherm HPR260's Plasma CutterSorry I had a bad stroke but now I am back.
Reply:We are based around the Wichita area. That where I have lived all my life. I am putting some more stuff together and will post up some more stuff later. Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Finally got a 2nd update.Here is a drawing I gave the company doing the plasma cutting for me. I had a good friend draw it up for me. If he looks at this Thanks Brian, it looks great. This last picture is showing the 8" channel that will be on the perimeter of the bed. I wanted a 1" lip above the tread plate to keep things on the bed, as well as give me a place to chain and boomer things down. The shop cut the angles a little off so I had to compensate and make it 1 1/2" lip, which actual I like better. Here is a picture. To show you what I mean.Here is a close-upI also tapered the side going to the back panel.Also here is a picture looking towards the cab, butting up the jack. Once the head ache rack is moved forward the jack will slip in to be flush with the back of the 8" channel. I will be cutting a 2.5" piece of 8" channel to weld the face of the jack. That will make the 8" channel seam seamless front to back. My good friend Jon with the FJ-40, gave me that idea which I think will look great. I also put all the lights in the panel because the company plasma cutting made a few mistakes, and I had to get on them tell the got it right.I'm just going to post up the rest of the pictures I took at different angles.I plan on tig welding all the miter cuts, and angles and metal finish them. I have some 1/2" plate left over that will mounted on the back panel with the same angles, and tapered from the center and get shorter the further it moves out. Well more pictures to come tomorrow, as I finish the other side, and skin the top. I will keep you updated. Thanks again AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:looks great you sub out the plasma cuttingdo you know what table they have ive been looking ata few like tourch mate and pro table
Reply:The company I used is pretty old. There machine didn't have a label on it I could read. But it had to of been at least 15 years old or more. I will try and take a closer look next time I am there. I have also been researching plasma tables. But stopped for now as the expense is out of my tool budget for now. Thanks again AndrewLast edited by scapegoat; 02-11-2009 at 10:21 PM.Reason: Spelling errorsHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:That bed is Nice!!!Are you bumpin' on the overloads yet?"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:That drawing of the frame should have given the CNC shop everything they needed to properly drop the frame in the back...How they screwed that up I have no idea...Regardless that looks AWESOME. Sure wish I had all your skills at my disposal!
Reply:FJ40cruisethis, if you are who I think you are, I believe you do have all my skills are your disposal. I got some more stuff done. But didn't get to take any pictures. I got the brackets for the mud flaps, done, figured out how I want the diesel filler caps, and lines to go. And removed the rear section to have the rest of my 1/2" plate plasma cut, and bent to match the contour of the back panel. Thanks again for the comments. AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:I got some pictures of the mud flaps installed.I used some 2"x2"x3/16" angle to weld to both the main frame to the 8" channel as the main support. I also drilled at the same time some 1.5"x1/8" strap to wedge the flaps between to keep them from ripping out later on. I also got all the holes drilled for the filler necks to go thru. I also wanted there to be plenty of slope in the line to make sure I don't have to raise one side of the truck to fill-up. Trust me I have gone thru this before. And the problem only gets worse if its loaded with a trailer. Next I will sleeve them with some 3" tubing.Also in this last photo you can see inside the hole there is a bump at the bottom of the tubing. I heated up about a 2" circle and used the back end of a ball peen hammer to dimple the tubing to fit flat on the frame, over the rivets on top. Here is another photo of the rear.I should have some more stuff for you on Tues. as I pick back-up the rear bumper section, with the 1/2" plate finished. Thanks again for looking, and commenting. AndrewLast edited by scapegoat; 02-17-2009 at 12:10 AM.Reason: added some more photos, and fixed some errorsHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Looks good Andrew. I can attest to that filler neck trouble. With a flat bed, the slope just isn't there. I like your solution, especially the sleeve. Let us know how it works.Oooooo MudflapsThat'll give the guys somethin' to tear offBTW--- The welds (yours, not the headache rack guys) are really nice. Wish mine looked like that."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:sweet bed what do you project it's gonna weigh when finished?Last edited by hytekredneck; 02-17-2009 at 09:44 PM.Reason: spell It's not what you can buy, it's what you can build that matters
Reply:Thanks for the comments guy's. To answer your question, I think it is going to weight a lot. Probably on the heavy side of 2400 #'s. Thats without tools, the crane, and hydraulics. But I got another update for you guys again. Got the rear piece back from the plasma cutters. And I am very pleased, it turned out pretty close to how I designed it. I had to be there to walk them through it again, but here are some pics.Thats the lower piece for the rear bumper. The next one is the reciever tube support plate as well as a spot to hook the chains, and a step.And here is a picture of the tacked together rear section complete.One of the side angles was a degree or two off, but that is nothing a rosebud, and a crescent with a break-over can't fix later.But the other side looked perfect.Here is also a shot of the side'sI got all the tig welding done, and couldn't get my camera to take close up's.But it is heavy, and it shouldn't move. I have to finish weld it, and finish grinding the outer insides of the channel to make it look pretty again. But I will keep you updated. Thanks again AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Man, that's one complex pattern!!!!!I'd have enough ruined scrap to build another 2 bumpers by the time I was doneNo way I could even attempt something like this."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:That bumper won't be going anywhere, I wouldn't want to hit it thats for sure, LOL.
Reply:Well I got another update for all of you guys.I got the rear section back on the truck.I also got the camera to take some close-ups of the welds. Here is the reciever tube and hook plate welded up. I also got the rear 1/4' tread plate mounted.I also got the the drivers side out-rigger and front channel finished. I'll post up some more pictures, on another post as I have hit my 10 picture limit.Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:I also got one of the fuel filler mounted and sleeved.Also to tie the rear section to the frame I took some 3/8" plate and angle cut it to make a gusset. Here are some pictures of both the drivers side, and passengers side.Well thats all I got for now. I should be picking up the delta underbody boxs soon, and get them mounted up. And hope to start getting the plates weld down soon. I will keep you updated. Thanks again AndrewLast edited by scapegoat; 02-19-2009 at 09:21 PM.Hobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:How much distortion are you experiencing? Or do you have enough heat going to the top and bottom of the bed to equal it out? Likewise with the outside of the bed.There's so many different angles I wondered.Thanks"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:There have been a few places that have wanted to move, or distort. Mostly the middle sections of the 8" channel wanting to pull to whatever side I am welding on. Also I did the first pass on the receiver tube to plate pass with the tig, maxed out the Lincoln precision tig 225, and turned the bottom of the 1/2" plate blue. I stuck it back on the rear section of ½ plate and had warped it about 3/16" high in the center, but that was nothing a sledge couldn't fix. Also if you look at the bottom of where the rear cross 3x2 tubing goes over the 4x3 you can see I welded short pieces of strap to raise these up to match the height of the tread plate and the 1/2" plate in the front. I did this the wrong way the first time around, and warped a 20 stick of 3x2 tubing, by welding 2" strap to one side. Even though I jumped around, and let it cool every now and then, it moved about 1/2 from outsides to center. Thanks again for looking AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Thank God I'm not the only one with the problem. It's eatin' my butt right now. Nother story, nother time. Don't wanna crap up your thread.It's a beautiful build you got goin'"Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:Just curious, Why didn't you use channel iron for the crossmembers? That is the industry standard and resists some of the warping you will find in tubing.It is a nice looking bed and will serve you well for years to come.Esab Migmaster 250Lincoln SA 200Lincoln Ranger 8Smith Oxy Fuel setupEverlast PowerPlasma 80Everlast Power iMIG 160Everlast Power iMIG 205 Everlast Power iMIG 140EEverlast PowerARC 300Everlast PowerARC 140STEverlast PowerTIG 255EXT
Reply:Thanks again for the questions and comments. To answer your question about the channel, and tubing. From the truck places I called, and inquires into having places such as bramco, and winkel mgf., and a few others about having a custom bed made. All of them insisted on using 3x2 1/4" wall tubing under where the crane would mount, and 3" channel ever where else. I asked them the same question. They all told me that the channel is used because it is flatter, doesn't have the radiuses edge, and lighter, for a savings in weight, for the strength you retain. I also used the same practice as to when I built my English wheel, that rectangular tubing resist twisting or flexing better than even Structural I-beam does in its right application. Again thanks for the questions. AndrewLast edited by scapegoat; 02-20-2009 at 12:02 AM.Hobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Don't give a damn what shape you weld, it will warp when the heat's put to it. Channel isn't any different than tubing. The culprit is the shrinkage of the filler material when it cools. Lot of force there."Any day above ground is a good day"http://www.farmersamm.com/
Reply:How do you like the crane I am looking at getting the 160 to mount on the back bumper of my service body
Reply:I have not got to use it yet, but from just looking at it, it is very well built, and overbuilt in area's I like to see. As I like overbuilding things myself. I worked with Dave at technacrane on everything, and it was a pleasure to work with him on the purchase, and getting the info I needed. All of us here at my work are very eager to use it. Thanks again, AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:I have been emailing don and got all the info and pricing for the crane. I will mount it on the back driverside corner of the extended bumper just that it needs some more reinforicing and some pull out outrigers. Attached Images
Reply:That thing is really coming together! The fuel filler sleeve worked out well, and the hitch looks awesome (especially the welds).
Reply:This bed is coming along very nicely.I really like the way you took the time to blend the outrigger into the bed channel when in the retracted position.I am starting to wonder if you will need a heavier duty truck, it is looking a little on the heavy side.IanMiller Syncrowave 200
Reply:I'm impressed, very nice work
Reply:Well I got another update for all of you.I got the front-end replacement in today.I also got the other side outrigger done. And was able to put the front 1/2" plate put in place.Also I wanted to put some receiver tubes on the side of the bed so I can haul, a joint of tubing, or pumps with. I will also be putting one in the front-end as well. Here is the one on the rear.And here is the one in the front corner.Here are some more pictures of the head ache rack set in place.Thats all I got for now, I thought I would post up what I had on my lunch break. If I get more done, I will post it up later.Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Andrew, that is some fine work. You should be proud.
Reply:Well I finally got some more updates. I was on vacation for a week at Disney World. So sorry for the delay. I go the front 1/2 plate welded on.I also got the under body delta boxes put on, and some 3/8" gussets welded onto the headache rack.I also got my tubing notcher in while I was gone I purchased this for personal use, but should get some practice on this porject. So I went with the JD2 Beast notcher . I also put in the picture some ballistic fab i.d. tube clamps for the front grille guard I plan to build for the truck.AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:Looks great alot of thought has went into this.Just askingWhat is bed going to weigh when it is done?TimMiller 330 A/BP Bernard SS coolerMiller cst 250Miller Big Blue 251DCentury 210 Mig (first welder I bought)Hypertherm PowerMax 800Victor torch setRu Fong 31 MilAtlas lathe
Reply:The bed should come in around 2300 #'s, the crane is 600 #'s, so I figure with tools and all this truck should have a gvw of about 9500 pounds. I also got an update.I got the crane mounted on.And here is a couple of the front of the truck viewing the H/A rack and crane mounted to the side. The crane is swung outward, I don't have the hydraulics hooked up so I can't turn it. But when finished it will be stored either facing the back, or swung on towards the rack. Thats all I got for now. I should get some more done today.Thanks AndrewHobart Handler 135 MIGLincoln Idealarc 255 MIGLincoln Precision Tig 225Lincoln "BUZZ BOX" Stick welderMiller 252 MIgHobart 350 DC stick welderMiller Bobcat 11,000-GEN/Stick WelderThermal Dynamics 55AMP Plasma Cutter
Reply:any more progress?Here is what I have so Far:Miller:Shop Master 300 A A/C D/CS 22a Wire FeederRFC-14 Tig PedalHF-251D High Freq. UnitProfax 250 A Mig GunVictor RegulatorsHarris:63-2 torch Cutting Attachment 49-3making home built tig cooler |
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