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Hey guys, As a follower of chucke2009 on you tube I was just wondering if he does reviews as a full time job? I notice he has received miller machines now where as in years past he mostly reviewed cheap Chinese welders. I like his old videos from Ohio the best because they seemed more adventurous and the reviews were real. Now the videos seem just like a advertisement for the featured companies and there inst any bad comments about the items. I still like lanse and will continue to view his videos and He seems like a great guy with lots of ambition.just was wondering on your thought about chucke2009 now as compared to a few years ago in ohio. I
Reply:I have not watched him much in the past year or so but when I did watch him he needed to learn to weld better. I am glade he is starting to get into some of the perks of doing the vids.  I do like his passion for what he is doing .  I do believe he is playing a little out of his league.
Reply:He will do anything to make money for sure, but he is running a welding business, I know that for sure a 100%. He is a whore tho lol. Was more appealing when he was just a kid starting out. Now it's like a big yawn for me. I do like Lanse tho, he used to make some funny farming vids when he was just a little tyke. I slowly watched the welding addiction sway his ways as he got older. He's been doing videos before it was mainstream for those that don't know.I hate being bi-polar it's awsomeMy Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys
Reply:Now the videos seem just like a advertisement for the featured companies It would be nice to know if they gave him anything in return? Put it all up front, and I would no issues with what he is saying.. quid pro quo is all what I get out of those vids.....  It's like pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! (Jim Colt)Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:I'm sure he won't care one bit what you all think of him....Just a couple welders, big hammers, grinders, and torches.Work will free you.Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it. Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Reply:I know as an old fart, I admire the guy for starting up as a young man with ambition and a love for welding. He was a big help for me just a few years ago, I was completely clueless starting out, and he didn't make feel it was hopeless and he is so upbeat, gotta love him. And i'm partially clueless now. Haven't watched the new ones, but I will now.Thermal Arc 210 - Tweco 211I - Cutmaster 52
Reply:You got to take these youtube reviews with a grain of salt. Most of these youtubers that have a following get the units for free and usually say as much. I don't know if they get a bonus for positive reviews or just give biased reviews on the assumption that they will get more free stuff for positive reviews. Anybody that is a professional will not be using chinese welders to pay the bills unless they are desperate... or they live in china. Youtube is the new frontier for advertisement and businesses are taking full advantage.
Reply:Originally Posted by mxpapaI know as an old fart, I admire the guy for starting up as a young man with ambition and a love for welding. He was a big help for me just a few years ago, I was completely clueless starting out, and he didn't make feel it was hopeless and he is so upbeat, gotta love him. And i'm partially clueless now. Haven't watched the new ones, but I will now.
Reply:The manufacturers absolutely give him machines, gear, tools, etc, and he says so, he pretty clearly says what stuff was given to him, and what stuff he buys on his own.  That's exactly how it should work and all I can say is, he's smarter than all of us, he's figured out how to get to work with all kinds of different machines and tools with little or no cost in his part compared to anyone else.  I wish I would have thought of that.  I think the draw to him is that he's not a polished professional and he doesn't claim to be, he does the jobs the same way most people would in their garages or driveways.  He makes mistakes at times, just like the average Joe working on weekend projects.  But he has no problem showing them and that's another big part of the draw for the vast majority of people out there using welders.   You have to look at it from a different point of view, most of us on here are professional welders and fabricators with years of experience in the field, that's not the type of people who are learning a whole lot from his videos, and that's definitely not the audience that he's playing too.   For every professional welder out there, there are 20 guys with a welder in their garage who are working on weekend projects and trying to figure it out as they go, and for those people, he's the perfect guy to look to.  I have no problem with him getting products for free, in fact, I commend him for it and will continue to watch his videos.  He's found what he loves, and has figured out a much better way to do than most of us!!
Reply:nick121, he comes on welding web  sometimes.    maybe he'll show up here
Reply:He almost never says what is free but does say when he bought something outright . He never even used other competing machines in the class but this is best? WTF Jack? Self proclaimed expert. This is best because I got it for free and was it has to be best..(If I know what's good for my pocket..) Put it at the beginning of the infomercial, and there would be way less stink around his vids.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Lance could care less what most people think about him. Free equipment of all types to keep, try and get paid for, just by doing a few minutes of videos a week. Why spend 10s of thousands on a actor when you can get chucke2009 to do it for a hole lot less and Lance is kicking up his heels all the way to the bank. Good for him, I for one should have though of this years ago.www.georgesplasmacuttershop.comPlasma Cutter and Welder Sales and Repairs--Ebay storeTec.Mo. Dealer Consumables for the PT and IPT torch's
Reply:I also enjoy some of his older videos. But I usually watch with the sound OFF.Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:And the haters come out of the woodwork.Give the kid some credit, he's doing good in the land of opportunity.I look at him with admiration, not envy.It's been fun watching him grow up.A bit of advice for the haters, you don't have to watch him.Last edited by In Utopia; 02-13-2016 at 08:21 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by weldermikeHe will do anything to make money for sure, but he is running a welding business, I know that for sure a 100%.
Reply:I just recently watched a few of his new videos, I cant say they meant as much to me as the old ones did but hey hes got a good thing going for himself. He just put a review of the miller 211 and there was a few negatives about it so at least everything inst sugar coated. For welding videos I will stick to welding tips and tricks, Jody is a great guy and knows his stuff.
Reply:Some of the reviews are decent. That v8 tractor build was very entertaining, due to the hackery of the whole affair( which could have been avoided, by listening to a few simple suggestions). Sometimes you have to watch to see what comes next. I certainly wouldn't use the videos for any professional methods or advice.
Reply:It's not hard to figure out that when he says, "This _______ machine sent over to us by our good friends at _______", it means that they sent him that machine.  I have absolutely no problem with that and if I was smart enough to figure it out years ago, I would be doing the exact same thing.  I do watch Jody's videos as well, and he more of the polished professional that Lanse is not, his tips are more geared towards guys with experience and who are doing it for a living every day, like most of us on here.  But you would be a fool to think he's not making money and being given products/machines just like Lanse is.  They each have a different audience, and play to their audience very well, that's why they are so successful at what they do.  The company's that sponsor them realize this and that's why you see the types of products that you do in each of their videos, Chinese machines, grinding wheels, jackets etc for Lanse, and test stands, bend fixtures, and more professional equipment for Jody.  At the end of the day, they are both very smart to have figured out what none of us have, they do their jobs very well, and I will continue to watch both channels!
Reply:Something very odd about a grown man using the word "Hater"  Miller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Originally Posted by In UtopiaAnd the haters come out of the woodwork.Give the kid some credit, he's doing good in the land of opportunity.I look at him with admiration, not envy.It's been fun watching him grow up.A bit of advice for the haters, you don't have to watch him.
Reply:Originally Posted by CaseyIt's not hard to figure out that when he says, "This _______ machine sent over to us by our good friends at _______", it means that they sent him that machine.
Reply:Originally Posted by JD1Maybe this is him?http://www.austinreliablewelding.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by JD1So does he get to keep all the $$$$stuff or is it a loaner for the video? Some of it is expensive (at least in my perception) and would be pretty significant compensation for doing a short video.
Reply:Originally Posted by Brand XHere is some for you.. Wake the F##K UP!It's not hating if you see someone put out bias info, and call them on being paid for it. It's calling a spade a spade. It's what's wrong with this country on about every level. Same as any political hack.   Little truth goes a long way..
Reply:In the interest of full disclosure, since that's what we're talking about...  I spent about 6 years racing for a living and sponsorships are what paid my bills for the majority of that time.  Now running a welding business, I wish I would have gone after welder and welding equipment sponsorships back then, but I wasn't looking that far forward.  I along with all my fellow racers, were paid either with product, or with money and usually both to promote their business.  I was sponsored by many different companies over the years, some who's products I liked and some who's products I refused to use, but I paid the bills and got to continue to keep my racing career going.  I had an energy drink sponsor who's drink I didn't like, an oil brand who's oil I refused to put in my engines, an audio equipment company who's stuff I gave away because I didn't want and I tire manufacture who's tires never saw any of my personal vehicles.   There were of course many other smaller ones over the years and many event specific sponsors that most times, I had no interest in, but I did what I was paid to do and kept food on my table.  You can be sure that every industry that has sponsors, works the exact same way.  It is worse with some than others, but you can be sure that any racing, sports, public events ect, are being compensated by their sponsors.  Just look around next time you are watching any of those types of things, if you see a businesses name somewhere, they paid to have it their in one way or another.  For a lot of people, YouTube is a business just the same, and they have figured out how to use it to their advantage and good for them for doing so.  Like I said, it is worse with some industries than others.  But watching Lanse's videos, I can say that he is much more up front and honest about who has given them to him and how much he really likes them than I was when I was getting sponsorships.   He's a good at this whole video thing and it is paying off for him.  Just look at this shot from his newest video, do you think it's any accident that the Avani is turned 45 degree so you can see the name on the side just like the Miller, or that all the posters on the wall fit just right in the frame with him standing in in???  Like I said, he's good at this.   He even says very clearly at the end of the video that the sponsor of the day is Welding Supplies from IOC and that you can buy the machine reviewed in the video from them for whatever prove it was that he said.  That's usually a pretty good sign that IOC sent the machine him to review, promote, and then tell the audience where they can buy it.  And as far as his biggest negative, the ground clamp, what percentage of people that buy this machine from IOC are now going to add a ground clamp to their order??   He's extremely open about where he's getting products from compared to just about any other sponsored industry, and good for him for being that way.   I was not nearly as open, I promoted that business that was paying me to do so, and I did so weather I liked their product or not.  I even went as far as to have the oil company send me empty jugs so that I could fill them with another oil that I bought and when at the track, all anyone would see me pouring in my engine was the oil I had promoted on the side of my truck.Sorry, I deleted my original text but couldn't find a "delete post" function on this thread and it wouldn't let me enter a blank post.Last edited by JD1; 02-13-2016 at 12:03 PM.
Reply:So, I'm another one of those guys who wishes he was where ChuckE is. Good job, good revenue from YouTube, and all the equipment he can shake a tripod at.Currently working as a Paralegal, but still interested in hobby welding.Miller Bobcat 225ntOne- Character Fractions: ¼ ½ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞
Reply:Originally Posted by JD1Pretty nice welding niche he's worked out for himself. I need to watch some of his current videos to see if he's turned into a straight manufacturer's shill. I hope not. It's so common, then they lose their credibility at least with those who know anything. That's just how life is, money moves the lips. Of course what would you expect. If I was the Miller marketing manager and I sent him my latest to review, then in 6 weeks I see another video where he reviewed a Lincoln and pointed out how it was better, I doubt he'd be getting any more machines from me. I'd get fired if I put my companies product out where it could get negative press.It's only in user forums that you get real opinions, good and bad. Except you have to weed out the fanboys...
Reply:Isn't there any way to delete posts?? Another forum I'm part of uses the same VB engine and they have a "delete post" function. The last two posts I've made I was typing while someone else posted which impacted what I was saying.Last edited by JD1; 02-13-2016 at 12:25 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by CaseyNot necessarily true, if you were a Miller rep, you would probably get fired if you stopped pending machines to the guy who reviews and likes Lincoln's.  The old saying of, "All publicity is good publicity." Is definitely true.
Reply:A perfect example is that we are talking about Lincoln's and Miller's, in a thread about a YouTube channel that has nothing to do with Lincoln's.  We should be discussing Miller and Everlast, or AHP, or Longevity.   Those are all machines that he has reviewed on his channel, yet we compare to Lincoln because that is a name we know, and we know it because Lincoln has been pretty good about keeping their name out there in front of people's faces, not quite as good as Miller, but definitely better than Esab, Thermal Arc, HTP ect, who all produce a product that is just as good, or in even better.   Brand recognition is one of the biggest assets a company can have
Reply:Originally Posted by justin1098You got to take these youtube reviews with a grain of salt. Most of these youtubers that have a following get the units for free and usually say as much. I don't know if they get a bonus for positive reviews or just give biased reviews on the assumption that they will get more free stuff for positive reviews. Anybody that is a professional will not be using chinese welders to pay the bills unless they are desperate... or they live in china. Youtube is the new frontier for advertisement and businesses are taking full advantage.
Reply:I'm not sure what Lance's agreements are but I know another major YouTube welding video site gets paid a monthly subscription fee to keep the specific brand's videos on their site in addition to getting the equipment free.  Just like the sponsored forums here pay $500 a month to maintain their forum.Also every time you watch TV show or movie, just about every vehicle and product shown is free product placement from the manufacturer.  All the way down to the products on the grocery store shelves.  They provide empty containers of the product to the production company.    This is how capitalism works.If you look at advertising budgets, giving a free machine and paying a monthly fee is chump change for most of these companies.  The targeted audience and return on investment is phenomenal.Last edited by soutthpaw; 02-13-2016 at 01:47 PM.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Originally Posted by JD1Maybe this is him?http://www.austinreliablewelding.com/
Reply:Originally Posted by copeNo, he moved to the DFW area.
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleYes and no on this. From what I am sure a lot of us have noticed with chucke is that back in ohio in his moms garage he just plain and simple didn't care. His opinions were open and honest.Now his opinion is everything is great with maybe  1 or 2 negative marks but that's it. Why? Probably because this is now his business, his income. He lives off it. You think if you piss off the company that sends you free **** by saying their product is crap they want to send you something else? Probably not.
Reply:Originally Posted by JD1Yep. I doubt any manufacturer holds with "any publicity is good even if it's negative". Most don't follow the Kardashian school of marketing and they'll do anything in their power to prevent negative press. That's why they all have marketing departments that are expert in spin and image control. I worked in various marketing/advertising functions for 35 years. My last job for 20, fair sized global company and no way were we going to let our customers or potential customers hear anything negative if it was in our power to control.
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleSure but they don't give you a product to tell the world how much you love it. They give you a product and ask for your HONEST opinion. They aren't going to give you a product and say here is a free XYZ please tell the world how awesome it is (even though it may actually suck)
Reply:Mr. gamble..I am pretty sure if Torchmate gave you a free software upgrade, and THC to review there CNC machine.. you would do it different One difference you would not spout your mouth off saying it's the best in the world, because you have no background to make such a claim..If you are going to compare something, then it's best you know WTF you are talking about.. It's fine to say this works great, but to make claims it's the best, when you do not know S**T from Shinola. We have enough of that in this country as it is..Last edited by Brand X; 02-13-2016 at 05:11 PM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
Reply:Originally Posted by AKweldshopCome on. There's only 1 Lance Edwards.
Reply:Originally Posted by duaneb55That would be Lanse with an "s" AK.  The Lance Edwards from Texas I know is a real estate investor. But I would agree, the Austin shop is him as I believe I recognize that bumper project and smoke/grill.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749Just listen for the YEEHAW! and there will be no doubt!
Reply:Gee,I thought his AHP TIG review was quite good with its commentary and practical demonstration. Maybe it is one of the more recent ones. I mean, I think I did see a couple earlier ones, where he held the camera pointing to himself at arms length, which made his head and face fill most of the frame. I mean, I'm glad he brushed his teeth. But this AHP one is framed nice, and there's almost no tangental thoughts to speak of. For such a young guy, I commend his disregard of any criticism about his motivation. He has no need to explain himself to anyone here. I mean, he seems to have enough fun with it, regardless of how much or little money or product he garners. Besides, I take a somewhat contrarian view that one of the very best ways to learn something is to teach it! Ha, ha, ha...
Reply:I think the only honest reviews are those by guys who actually purchase their product from a dealer at the regular price available to all customers.  Then they need to review it fairly and completely, warts and all.  On the other hand most guys who buy a new piece of equipment and review it, are so proud of their new purchase they tend to tell us it is the best, even if they have never used a comparable product.  Even some of the more honest reviewers will decline to review a product they find to have major issues, instead of publishing a negative review.Everybody else is a shill or a pitchman for the company supplying the product or paying for it's promotion.  I tend to view all reviews with suspicion.  If I view them, I just look for information about or demonstration of features I am interested in, I am not interested in what the guys opinion is of whether it is the best or not.Personally I enjoy Lanse's videos for entertainment only, I remember when he was a kid picking up scrap for cash to buy some gear to get into welding.  I am glad he seems to be successful, but I don't care one way or the other what his opinion is of what he is plugging.Personally I buy the majority of my major purchases from the used market, several years old at that.  I do research online, this forum included to help me decide what is good piece of equipment to purchase."The reason we are here is that we are not all there"SA 200Idealarc TM 300 300MM 200MM 25130a SpoolgunPrecision Tig 375Invertec V350 ProSC-32 CS 12 Wire FeederOxweld/Purox O/AArcAirHypertherm Powermax 85LN25
Reply:Originally Posted by noriteI think the only honest reviews are those by guys who actually purchase their product from a dealer at the regular price available to all customers.  Then they need to review it fairly and completely, warts and all.  On the other hand most guys who buy a new piece of equipment and review it, are so proud of their new purchase they tend to tell us it is the best, even if they have never used a comparable product.  Even some of the more honest reviewers will decline to review a product they find to have major issues, instead of publishing a negative review.Everybody else is a shill or a pitchman for the company supplying the product or paying for it's promotion.  I tend to view all reviews with suspicion.  If I view them, I just look for information about or demonstration of features I am interested in, I am not interested in what the guys opinion is of whether it is the best or not.Personally I enjoy Lanse's videos for entertainment only, I remember when he was a kid picking up scrap for cash to buy some gear to get into welding.  I am glad he seems to be successful, but I don't care one way or the other what his opinion is of what he is plugging.Personally I buy the majority of my major purchases from the used market, several years old at that.  I do research online, this forum included to help me decide what is good piece of equipment to purchase.
Reply:When I was living in Thailand years ago, a girl from the cat house down the street gave me a free sample. I would have given her a good review, but that was before the internet. Missed my calling, I did. Basically, I like Lance's stuff.  It's pretty basic and basically it's alright. But if you get down to basics, I hate the word BASIC."USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:Here are his stats, he's definitely making money from YouTube!   I enjoy watching his videos, and say good for him! http://www.statsheep.com/chucke2009
Reply:Originally Posted by AdvanHere are his stats, he's definitely making money from YouTube!   I enjoy watching his videos, and say good for him! http://www.statsheep.com/chucke2009
Reply:I'm confused as to what some of you guys are bitching about......you're butthurt that he gets free stuff from manufacturers for his reviews and advertising? ....that's how it works duhWelding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:YouTube is a business for a lot of people, Lanse included.  Those stats are also purely the earnings from YouTube advertisements on his videos, not counting anything he makes from sponsors or by doing reviews.  So again I say, good for him!!