Argon Pricing?

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So I was calling around to get my 80 CF Argon tank exchanged.Airgas: $77 + random fees = $89 + taxLocal Welding Shop: $35 + tax$35 seems like a really good deal, almost too good of a deal. What are you guys paying for Argon?This is in the SF Bay Area
Reply:Airgas is such a ripoff. My local Airgas told me that it is would cost between $35 and $70 to fill an Acetylene B bottle. The much smaller 4 store LWS charges $35 + tax to fill an 80 CF bottle of Argon. To buy a filled 80 CF cylinder is $235.
Reply:I filled a 244 with Argon a couple weeks ago and paid less than $30 in the Houston area.GravelThe difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference.
Reply:Airgas sucks. But sometimes the people at the counter can be helpful. Tell them you want a better price, you might be surprised what they can do.Ian TannerKawasaki KX450 and many other fine tools
Reply:LWS 122c/f tank was filled /exchanged for $29.00 today.....
Reply:$35 seemed reasonable to me, not like the airgas price, plus the place is 2 minutes from my house, diesel is $4.40 around here so would rather not drive around too much!
Reply:My 150cf tank is $50 after tax and fees.My 55cf tank is $21 after taxTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:27$ per 250cf tank :P  but I also exchange out 8 a month.150cf- 15$80cf- 7$+cali hazmat, tax, and delivery fee'14 HTP invertig 221Thermal Arc 201ts'15 HTP 2400'13 Hypertherm Powermax 30Esab 875Esab 251Clark Metal Servicespecializing in stainless steel exhaust systems
Reply:Originally Posted by mud99$35 seemed reasonable to me, not like the airgas price, plus the place is 2 minutes from my house, diesel is $4.40 around here so would rather not drive around too much!
Reply:I got 250cf yesterday for $45 + $15 for hydro (mine was last tested in '94) +tax...GlenMiller Dynasty 200DX - Millermatic 350P - Hypertherm Powermax 45Want to sell!! - Hobart Handler 150
Reply:$18 for 122cf refill.
Reply:Originally Posted by kerf$18 for 122cf refill.
Reply:A question from the newbe is better to buy or lease your bottle if your only welding on hobbies and home projects.  Thanks Dean
Reply:Originally Posted by dmbell502A question from the newbe is better to buy or lease your bottle if your only welding on hobbies and home projects.  Thanks Dean
Reply:Originally Posted by sausage450r27$ per 250cf tank :P  but I also exchange out 8 a month.150cf- 15$80cf- 7$+cali hazmat, tax, and delivery fee
Reply:72. for a 336cf t tankLast edited by docwelder; 07-19-2014 at 02:02 PM.i.u.o.e. # 15queens, ny and sunny fla
Reply:Originally Posted by GlenCWhere do you get this in CA?
Reply:Originally Posted by sausage450rMatheson in socal.
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelDamn! Where do you live?
Reply:Originally Posted by kerfis that expensive? where can i get it cheaper?  i'm new to all this
Reply:Just got 67$ out for door for a 330cu ft at airgas/praxairMillermatic 211Miller Syncrowave 350lx with cooler and tigrunner Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 811955 National Cylinder Gas O/A setup with original patina
Reply:$109 today,Matheson in Columbus, Ohio. Delille was $79. Last fill from Matheson they took my private owner tank and switched it for a Company owned neck ring. Did not catch it till I got home. Took 2 years to use the tank up, took all relevant paperwork with Me today and they made it right to My surprise. This was a 336 CF.
Reply:Originally Posted by kerfis that expensive? where can i get it cheaper?  i'm new to all this
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelDamn! Where do you live?
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelThe less you use, the better off you are owning your own bottles.Oh my....I just got a bunch of quotes yesterday and I feel like im getting ripped off after having read this thread. Just got a TIG welder so Im looking to buy at least an 80, if not a 125 cf bottle. My lws only sells 80cf bottles and they are $299 plus tax to buy, he also said he wont fill anything above 80 for insurance reasons. Tractor supply quoted me $454 out the door for a 125 bottle of argon. Tech air quoted me $87 a year to rent plus I think $67 to fill. Since im just a hobby welder I dont want to rent because its a waste for me. I found a place called weld fabulous on amazon that sells tanks for about $365 shipped which is a good deal for the area Im in. Anyone ever dealt with them?
Reply:Originally Posted by ThreadkillerOh my....I just got a bunch of quotes yesterday and I feel like im getting ripped off after having read this thread. Just got a TIG welder so Im looking to buy at least an 80, if not a 125 cf bottle. My lws only sells 80cf bottles and they are $299 plus tax to buy, he also said he wont fill anything above 80 for insurance reasons. Tractor supply quoted me $454 out the door for a 125 bottle of argon. Tech air quoted me $87 a year to rent plus I think $67 to fill. Since im just a hobby welder I dont want to rent because its a waste for me. I found a place called weld fabulous on amazon that sells tanks for about $365 shipped which is a good deal for the area Im in. Anyone ever dealt with them?
Reply:Originally Posted by ThreadkillerOh my....I just got a bunch of quotes yesterday and I feel like im getting ripped off after having read this thread. Just got a TIG welder so Im looking to buy at least an 80, if not a 125 cf bottle. My lws only sells 80cf bottles and they are $299 plus tax to buy, he also said he wont fill anything above 80 for insurance reasons. Tractor supply quoted me $454 out the door for a 125 bottle of argon. Tech air quoted me $87 a year to rent plus I think $67 to fill. Since im just a hobby welder I dont want to rent because its a waste for me. I found a place called weld fabulous on amazon that sells tanks for about $365 shipped which is a good deal for the area Im in. Anyone ever dealt with them?
Reply:Originally Posted by copeTrue.  Dmbell502, you're close to Gravel; he can tell you where the deals are in the Pasadena area.  Big Tex on Long Drive in Southeast Houston used to have good prices, and Chuck is good to deal with.
Reply:Originally Posted by GravelI'll have to stop by there and visit one day.
Reply:Search C-list, you may be able to find a 330cf for less than $200Millermatic 211Miller Syncrowave 350lx with cooler and tigrunner Thermal Dynamics cutmaster 811955 National Cylinder Gas O/A setup with original patina
Reply:The problem is some places won't fill a tank you purchase from them.One of the places I go the lifetime lease is $175 for an 80cf and $225 for a 150cf.Insurance reasons not to fill a large tank? Sounds like bs. They all hold the same pressure .Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Arcet in Hampton Roads charges $38+tax for 80CF
Reply:Welcome to Canada where a airliquide 22 argon is 109$ to fill $90/yr to lease or $150 3yr. A 80cf argon is 86$   and Stainless rig rods are 17$ a lb oh yeah our diesel is currently 4.80/gal
Reply:We sell an 80 cu ft Argon refill for $32.50 on Long Island,NY. Cash
Reply:I paid yesterday, 250cf, $55.Regards,RobGreat Basin WeldingInstagramBlue weldersRed weldersMy luscious Table DIY TIG Torch cooler
Reply:I priced the 250 and its right around $220
Reply:Originally Posted by TheAbyssWelcome to Canada where a airliquide 22 argon is 109$ to fill $90/yr to lease or $150 3yr. A 80cf argon is 86$   and Stainless rig rods are 17$ a lb oh yeah our diesel is currently 4.80/gal
Reply:The thought has crossed my mind many many times
Reply:Just to sponsor a bit of speculation on the collusion of some LWS on the prices of commodity gases, I purchased TWO full 300 c.f. bottles, outright, one filled with C25 mix and the other 100% argon, for $300 this week.FULL.  2400 PSI verified and my back is still reminding me why 300s are a bad idea for a home shop.Now, granted, this was via a craigslist transaction, but she had many, many more (100s).  At that price, I didn't even suggest a negotiation - just paid her outright.  She said her ad had been flagged many times after she was contacted by a few different LWS (names witheld, but this thread contains one) asking her not to sell bottles that cheap because their customers were asking why they couldn't provide them at that cost.  She said it wasn't her problem, and that's when the ads began getting flagged.Make no mistake, these gasses are not like Helium, they're abundant and extremely inexpensive.  There's no justifiable reason for the mark-up other than simple greed.
Reply:100% agreed its always greed by the bigger corporate entities. Here a LWS attempts to sell a 3' SS tig filler for $4 each yes $4 and $30 for 10 standard .035 mig ctips. A 83cuft tank outright is 245$ and $86 to fill. I know Canada is the land of over priced EVERYTHING but I'd happily take USA's "high" prices any day.  I am seriously looking into a USA tank lease on a few bottles and fill them over there as I am 45mins from the border.
Reply:40 cu ft Ar tank exchanged $38 (tax, haz mat fee) last week.  Ran through the small bottle pretty fast learning, so I bought a 154 Cu ft tank for $255, Ar cost $63 today (tax, haz mat fee).
Reply:Originally Posted by jenga40 cu ft Ar tank exchanged $38 (tax, haz mat fee) last week.  Ran through the small bottle pretty fast learning, so I bought a 154 Cu ft tank for $255, Ar cost $63 today (tax, haz mat fee).
Reply:Is there any members in the Detroit region by chance that could help a friendly Canadian.
Reply:big tex is where i get my tank filled gravel.
Reply:$38 for an 80 argon yesterday including tax and hazmat fee.  ARCET in Kilmarnock, VA.30+ yrs Army Infantry & Field Artillery, 25 yrs agoMiller 350LX Tig Runner TA 210, spool gunLincoln 250/250 IdealArcESAB PCM 500i PlasmaKazoo 30"  vert BSKazoo 9x16 horiz BSClausing 12x24 lathe20T Air Press
Reply:Dear crap wr in Canada get screwed at every turn. I'd say 95% of Americans would have a heart attack at the sight of nearly all of our pricing from A to Z. Hell at least diesel is only 4.46$ gal today. My Internet is still 120$ for 15mbit speed and 200gb bw though. If i was healthy and did not need a hand full of pills multiple times a day believe me I would be a proud American right now but i require the "free" health care they we all pay for trough the nose for in crazy taxes and prices.  Hey  anyone know a air liquide place in detroit or lower Michigan as i am only 40 minutes from border...