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So here is my dilemma, might be a long read. A lot of you helped me last year in going through a bunch of welder choices to fit my needs and we ended up going down the road to an engine drive. Unfortunately a couple nasty things happened last year about the time I was ready to get one (325 miller) and I had to wait. I had a little bit of time off recently and had a lot of time to read...and read I did. Here are my choices and the concerns that go along with them. I really need and want to move on something quick as the project list is building and I actually have time to work on some of these things but since my massive career change and move money does not come in the same way that it used to and I need to hopefully make the best long term decision possible, which is probably what drove me to my current vapor lock state. So you don't have to pour through my older threads in short I need portable power on my homestead/ranch for corrals, 4H projects, fabrication etc etc...really the list is quite long and growing. I did a lot of reading in particular from a problem and complaint standpoint this time and it surprised me how much I found on what I thought was a really sound choice in picking the Trailblazer 325. I really wanted blue here because I have been around them a lot on the jobs and my dads have been exceptional, but they are all older machines. I don't want to call him out or throw him under the bus but I have literally read hundreds of posts with a common tie that comes up with the service tech that goes by the name Cruizer over on miller welds forum and after developing some confidence in him I don't like three things about the 3251. This vented fuel issue of not accidentally overfilling with gas to prevent washing of the cylinders with overflowing gas has me pissed. I know miller put a warning near the tank and Lincoln warned of it as well but I really have a problem with this. Hate to screw up a couple times and eat life off the engine. 2. I also don't like the fact that I cannot tune the motor on the Kohler due to the encoder as far as upper and lower limit Hz readings. You could and I think you still can on the Lincoln line that uses the same Kohler command line.3. I am nervous about not having the AC option. My dad welds a freaking TON and has never had to use it but it would be nice to have. A feature I wish miller would have kept on them. The ranger 305g1. I don't like dealing with lincoln, period. Now when I say lincoln I mean the national office not my LWS that services both Lincoln and Miller. Every time I have had a product question the level of customer service and expertise has paled in comparison to blue. Not even a contest as far as customer service is concerned and it seems as though this is a common thread with others. I am really nervous if I would have to deal with them on warranty. 2. Here is the Cruizer fix for the same vented gas issue the TB line has as posted over on miller webs http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...the-collection"04-16-2013, 07:50 PMYep the Trailblazer is a nice machine providing you can find one that actually works properly. Most appear to be screwed before leaving the factory.As for the Ranger, please do the following modification BEFORE you even start it.Drill out the upper sides of the cap, with a 1/16 drill bit. Drill out the 4 indentations inside the cap. Cut and plug the fuel tank vent line. vent line is to the right of the spark plug lead. Merely cut it and plug both ends.Emmision reguirements state that you can't merely vent the gas tank to the atmosphere. However, it kinda nice to fill up the fuel tank neck for extra welding time. If you do fill up the neck witout this mod. you will double fuel the carb when the engine is running. or if you let the unit sit overnight fuel will enter the carb and then go down the engine into a waiting cylinder/ Locking it up and likely destroying it when you go to fire it in the day time. This mod lets you fill it right up, like the old versions. To many destroyed engines so far, with guys not reading the manual or sticker on the tank"I love this fix, simple and takes the headache out of an accidental overfill but does it ruin the warranty?One of the driving forces on a new machine is to get the warranty sooooo3. I think if my welder matches my red F250 I might get some looksMiller TB 302I was convinced this was the answer as it was pre EPA venting junk, it has AC etc. However the people selling these things must know what they have because the prices reflect it. I DO NOT want some machine with over 1000 hours on it. I am super good on maintenance and how I treat my equipment but my dad thinks he is the same way. He is not Now though a good mechanic he has too many irons in the fire and does not treat his machines the way I would but he would sell it that way and I just don't trust how people run and take care of their stuff. I have seen these machines need a bunch of new crap at 2000 hours and others go 5-6 with little work. The proper oil, diligence and how you run your stuff can have a ton to do with life. Plus they are really holding their value bringing near 3500 around me for between 1000 and 2000 hours. If I go near new on one even though it is 8-10 years old it is near the price of a brand new factory warranty miller TB (with a zoro coupon or the likes) and close to a ranger 305g. Plus I would have to drive...like a really long way for any of the options. Ranger 250GXT...I consider all the above machines to really be in about the same category but now for the wild card. This is the one my dad and wife are pushing for and here is why. My dad has probably welded more in his life then many professionals and when around professionals they are amazed at what he can do with his little bobcat. Now he is not hanging with the big ball crew of rig welder, pipeline rough neck fellas but we are around many industry professionals by our past association and they giggle at his little bobcat 225. His most recent bobcat 225 Onan has been going strong for I don't know how many hours now and has never not been able to tackle his many projects. Now me, I appreciate the finer things in life, more of a caviar taste on a beer budget kind of guy and am really turned on by starting off with something with a little better arc performance then the Ranger/Bobcat 250 line and not feel like I have settled but started right. Big kicker here is that they just started a promotion offering a 1300 dollar rebate putting that machine to my door at 3200 dollars, brand new, factory warranty and I could get my millermatic 211 at the same time and be out about the same money overall I would love to get my wire feed at the same time but cannot swing it any other way in the beginning.
Reply:I know nothing about the Ranger 250 GTX but if it has an arc similar to a TB. I would probably go with it. If it is Like a Bobcat then I would have to think about it long and hard. For that money it is hard to think it is in the same league as a TB.
Reply:1. I don't like dealing with lincoln, period. Now when I say lincoln I mean the national office not my LWS that services both Lincoln and Miller. Every time I have had a product question the level of customer service and expertise has paled in comparison to blue. Not even a contest as far as customer service is concerned and it seems as though this is a common thread with others. I am really nervous if I would have to deal with them on warranty. I don't know about your good experience with Miller warranty service that you speak about, but can tell you firsthand from mine. I've gotten nothing but a run-a-round from Miller since my Bobcat was 3 weeks old. I have even spoken to one of their head service honco's, Dan W on several occasions, finally they sent me to Kohler for the fix and to this day my problem still hasn't been solved. After 30 + years they have lost me as a customer.
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianC1. I don't like dealing with lincoln, period. Now when I say lincoln I mean the national office not my LWS that services both Lincoln and Miller. Every time I have had a product question the level of customer service and expertise has paled in comparison to blue. Not even a contest as far as customer service is concerned and it seems as though this is a common thread with others. I am really nervous if I would have to deal with them on warranty. I don't know about your good experience with Miller warranty service that you speak about, but can tell you firsthand from mine. I've gotten nothing but a run-a-round from Miller since my Bobcat was 3 weeks old. I have even spoken to one of their head service honco's, Dan W on several occasions, finally they sent me to Kohler for the fix and to this day my problem still hasn't been solved. After 30 + years they have lost me as a customer.
Reply:Originally Posted by thegaryI know nothing about the Ranger 250 GTX but if it has an arc similar to a TB. I would probably go with it. If it is Like a Bobcat then I would have to think about it long and hard. For that money it is hard to think it is in the same league as a TB.
Reply:I realize I am a new member here but I went through your same dilemma. About 4 months ago I squeezed the trigger on a ranger 250gxt, then had buyers remorse due to the fact that you can't weld and run generator power at the same time. Arc also wasn't that impressive to me. Luckily I was able to sell it with 14 hours on it for what I payed for it. Decided on the ranger 305 efi and couldn't be happier, that chopper technology seems to work wonders on arc quality. The only thing I wish lincoln offered was Miller's excel power, running a grinder just off idle would sure be nice! I live at 7200 feet elevation and the efi seems to run great and a lot cooler than the carbed 250
Reply:Originally Posted by pjm1I realize I am a new member here but I went through your same dilemma. About 4 months ago I squeezed the trigger on a ranger 250gxt, then had buyers remorse due to the fact that you can't weld and run generator power at the same time. Arc also wasn't that impressive to me. Luckily I was able to sell it with 14 hours on it for what I payed for it. Decided on the ranger 305 efi and couldn't be happier, that chopper technology seems to work wonders on arc quality. The only thing I wish lincoln offered was Miller's excel power, running a grinder just off idle would sure be nice! I live at 7200 feet elevation and the efi seems to run great and a lot cooler than the carbed 250
Reply:Originally Posted by TDog78Did you vent the cap and plug the vent line? I wonder if it voids the warranty if performed. I have read time and time again how that NEEDS to be done. I have buyers remorse on the 250 GXT and don't even have one yet but the good deal tickles my sensible side.
Reply:Originally Posted by pjm1I realize I am a new member here but I went through your same dilemma. About 4 months ago I squeezed the trigger on a ranger 250gxt, then had buyers remorse due to the fact that you can't weld and run generator power at the same time. Arc also wasn't that impressive to me. Luckily I was able to sell it with 14 hours on it for what I payed for it. Decided on the ranger 305 efi and couldn't be happier, that chopper technology seems to work wonders on arc quality. The only thing I wish lincoln offered was Miller's excel power, running a grinder just off idle would sure be nice! I live at 7200 feet elevation and the efi seems to run great and a lot cooler than the carbed 250
Reply:Originally Posted by pjm1I have not, I wasn't sure if the EFI models were plumbed the same, I will check it tonight. I understand the sensible side, I bought the GXT during the 500 dollar rebate time the end of last year. Harris welding supply out of Ohio seems to have the best deals also. I am by no means a professional weldor, just a mechanic, but the difference in arc quality was quite noticeable to me!
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCYou can't run a grinder off a Miller at idle, it will power up.
Reply:Originally Posted by thegaryYou can on the new ones that have excel power. They will also weld on idle up to a point.
Reply:So if I move the GXT off the list would you guys do the older TB 302 no warranty almost the same price as new or the 325TB or ranger 305g and perform the fuel vent modification?
Reply:The new Millers with excel power idle for power tools. My buddy was out $1600 for a new engine because of the damn vent line on his new 305G. There were 7 others in the shop with the same problem. There is no sticker but Lincoln mentions not to overfill the tank because it can flood the carb. What they don't tell you is that it washes down the cylinders. It seems to me that this is a big enough problem for a recall and/or a class action suit. If you're working in a remote location you want all the gas you take. What's really stupid is Lincoln says to turn the key on and stop filling as soon as the fuel gauge reads full. This could be difficult and wouldn't it pose a potential for a spark with the ignition on? The EFI may be the way to go. For what it's worth the Excel power is good but the 305G has the advantage for welding although slight. The 325 is a better welder than the 302 it replaces.
Reply:Originally Posted by Welder DaveThe new Millers with excel power idle for power tools. My buddy was out $1600 for a new engine because of the damn vent line on his new 305G. There were 7 others in the shop with the same problem. There is no sticker but Lincoln mentions not to overfill the tank because it can flood the carb. What they don't tell you is that it washes down the cylinders. It seems to me that this is a big enough problem for a recall and/or a class action suit. If you're working in a remote location you want all the gas you take. What's really stupid is Lincoln says to turn the key on and stop filling as soon as the fuel gauge reads full. This could be difficult and wouldn't it pose a potential for a spark with the ignition on? The EFI may be the way to go. For what it's worth the Excel power is good but the 305G has the advantage for welding although slight. The 325 is a better welder than the 302 it replaces.
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCNote: this isn't a Lincoln only problem, The Miller/Kohler has the same requirement when filling the tank as noted in the owners manual and on the side of the tank.
Reply:Originally Posted by TDog78From everything I have read this is correct. I am assuming since the EFI models don't have a carb that this is not a problem with them?
Reply:Honesty I think you may be dwelling on nothing. I read about that problem before I bought my 325 a few months ago and the only person that I could find that was saying that was cruzer. I have found NO one else that personally had that happen to their 325. Above is the only other case where I've heard this mentioned. Not saying it isn't a problem but a lot of "problems" on forums are just people that say they "have a friend" or "heard of it happening". Lets hear from some real people that have had this happen to them personally. If it really is a problem then we should be able to hear from quite a bit of people considering the problem is with lincoln and miller too. Me personally. I haven't dicked with my 325 efi and excel and don't plan to, unless I start hearing from multiple people that personally have had this effect their engine. And one other thing: yes I don't over fill my engine. Open the side door and watch the fuel level when filling. Not too hard to do. If you need more gas then go get a gas can.Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortHonesty I think you may be dwelling on nothing. I read about that problem before I bought my 325 a few months ago and the only person that I could find that was saying that was cruzer. I have found NO one else that personally had that happen to their 325. Above is the only other case where I've heard this mentioned. Not saying it isn't a problem but a lot of "problems" on forums are just people that say they "have a friend" or "heard of it happening". Lets hear from some real people that have had this happen to them personally. If it really is a problem then we should be able to hear from quite a bit of people considering the problem is with lincoln and miller too. Me personally. I haven't dicked with my 325 efi and excel and don't plan to, unless I start hearing from multiple people that personally have had this effect their engine. And one other thing: yes I don't over fill my engine. Open the side door and watch the fuel level when filling. Not too hard to do. If you need more gas then go get a gas can.
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortHonesty I think you may be dwelling on nothing. I read about that problem before I bought my 325 a few months ago and the only person that I could find that was saying that was cruzer. I have found NO one else that personally had that happen to their 325. Above is the only other case where I've heard this mentioned. Not saying it isn't a problem but a lot of "problems" on forums are just people that say they "have a friend" or "heard of it happening". Lets hear from some real people that have had this happen to them personally. If it really is a problem then we should be able to hear from quite a bit of people considering the problem is with lincoln and miller too. Me personally. I haven't dicked with my 325 efi and excel and don't plan to, unless I start hearing from multiple people that personally have had this effect their engine. And one other thing: yes I don't over fill my engine. Open the side door and watch the fuel level when filling. Not too hard to do. If you need more gas then go get a gas can.
Reply:At this point I am going to keep looking for an older unit (302g) if one shows up a lot closer to me, no more entertaining an 800 mile journey. I will also wait for the next wave of coupons and promotions for a ranger 305g or TB325 but will first see if the EFI models are prone to the same issues to see if I need to move up a model. Pleas give input if you know whether or not they are prone to the same issues!! Last but not least I am just going to order a mig or multi process machine to get going on my project list and get some time under the helmet instead of in front of the computer. Just saw the ESAB rebel this morning for the first time, pretty interesting but I don't think I want to be a guinea pig.
Reply:Originally Posted by tackitIt's hard for me to understand how either a brand new Miller or Lincoln machine would have such bad welding characteristics a welder could not make good welds with one.... or at least get used to it's arc and from then on make good welds.
Reply:Originally Posted by tackitI guess I'm using my construction site experiences, we were never allowed to switch welding machines until we found one whose arc was one we preferred. The foreman took you to the job and you told your helper to set the machine 5 up or down and you commenced to weld.
Reply:Originally Posted by tackitIt's hard for me to understand how either a brand new Miller or Lincoln machine would have such bad welding characteristics a welder could not make good welds with one.... or at least get used to it's arc and from then on make good welds.
Reply:I would try and test out each machine and see how you it works for you like tackit said.You should be able to get a demo of a Trailblazer 325 and Bobcat 250 and you could see for yourself any differences in how they weld. You should also be able to get a demo of a Ranger 250gxt (w/o Chopper Technology) and a 305g with CT.All Ive heard is the Rangers with CT weld better than a similar bobcat, and the CT Rangers arc characteristics are equivalent to those of the new Trailblazer 325.If you need a 300A machine, the Ranger 305g and Trailblazer 325 are probably a pretty close match. If you are looking at a Bobcat/ranger 250 they are probably pretty well matched now that the lincoln 250 doesnt have CT anymore. Sent from my S4 using Tapatalk1988 Big 50 Diesel CC/CV1982 Weldanpower 225/2101968 SAE 300 motor generatorMaxstar 200SD2015 AHP 200x"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald ReaganI wish I would have been able to test out the bobcats arc before I purchased the 325. Only because I've never ran one and would like to compair it now to the 325 and see what people are saying about the arc characteristics. If the arc was just fine, I admit I prob would have saved the couple grand difference and go with the bobcat. Is this vapor problem only on the 325 and 305g, or are we talking any new gas welders?Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortI wish I would have been able to test out the bobcats arc before I purchased the 325. Only because I've never ran one and would like to compair it now to the 325 and see what people are saying about the arc characteristics. If the arc was just fine, I admit I prob would have saved the couple grand difference and go with the bobcat. Is this vapor problem only on the 325 and 305g, or are we talking any new gas welders?
Reply:Since we are discussing testing new welders prior to purchase I'm having a problem finding Miller dealers that have a 325 EFI with Excel power in stock at all. They are all glad to have one drop shipped to your house for you to unbox and set up. I have contacted some big welding supply houses in big cities. If they are such great welders in high demand why wouldn't they keep one? What are your experiences?SteveLincoln SA200 (1966 Redface)Lincoln IdealArc 250Steve1990 Miller Dialarc 2501993 Miller Maxstar 140 STR2015 Lincoln MP2101966 Lincoln SA200 Redface
Reply:If you want to hear mine running,I posted a video on the Miller Electric Welders FB site today, tps://www.facebook.com/MillerWelders/. I'm sure you'll be as impressed as I am
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCI think the above post from Welder Dave should be enough to make you have a second thought about buying one, you can turn a blind eye if you like. It's great yours isn't causing you problems, maybe because it's an EFI .
Reply:I have been very impressed and pleased with my Trailblazer 325 EFI with excel. I run lots of told on the job, gas savings have been huge. Never had any issues with the machine. I also run a 12rc suitcase from it and certain amps I'm either at idle, or adjusts where it needs to be, not just full out run. The arc is extremely smooth, very impressive. Lots of different settings depending on rod types etc. Def demo one. It took me about 15 min to make up my mind.Miller Trailblazer 325 EFI w/Excel powerMiller 12 RC SuitcaseMiller Bobcat 225Victor Cutmaster 52Tweco 211i Fabricatorwww.HRPServicesTexas.com
Reply:If I was worried about the gas problem I would get a diesel powered welder or the l.p. version. I think New welders are just like any thing else once you figure the learning curve the problems are minimized. Just like def or scr regens in newer diesels. Read the manual and follow it.Millermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Originally Posted by farmshopIf I was worried about the gas problem I would get a diesel powered welder or the l.p. version. I think New welders are just like any thing else once you figure the learning curve the problems are minimized. Just like def or scr regens in newer diesels. Read the manual and follow it.
Reply:Originally Posted by thegaryThe tier 4 diesels are even worse. This problem is not just with welding machines. They are having problems all across the board. I purchased a new pressure washer this past summer. It would only run for about 45 seconds then it would die. I called the help line and the guy never missid a beat and told me to crack the cap loose so it could draw in air. It ran fine that way. I took the cap off and drilled a small hole in it so I could put it on tight. No more problems.
Reply:Any body got a pic of the fuel cap mod I going to do my 305 g tomorrow?Sent from my C811 4G using TapatalkVantage 300 kubota ,miller 304 xmt ,lincoln ln 25 pro , ranger 305 G, plenty of other tools of the trade to make the sparks fly.
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortI'm not turning a blind eye. I've just not heard of ANYONE that has had this problem personally with their welder. Even welder dave said, "my friend". And No disrespect welder dave, but we all know how the game of telephone works, so I have to take what you said with a grain of salt. If that shop had seven of those welders there for the same vapor problem, I would think my welding shop or anyone elses welding shop would have 1-7 305gs in there for that problem as well. Right? Maybe that was just a few years ago when that happened, and now the problem has been solved? That would make sense, as I bought my 325 a few months ago. Before I was looking into getting my 325 I even revived a old thread on the miller forum on this problem that cruzer was a main voice in (he may have even been the op). No one really responded with any further info on the problem, so Idk what to think? Aside from what I said above, I do agree that the epa is just a whole buch of bs and they really have made it alot of these vapor things required when they shouldn't be. And all the vapor crap does is just reduce performance (probably). I guess one should just use their engine drive enough to surface any potential problems within the first 3 years of their warrenty. If all is good by then, Idk if I'll want to dick with anything on the welder.
Reply:Originally Posted by Welder DaveAre you serious? Do you want Continental Engines phone number in Edmonton or my buddy Rays? It is a real problem and it even mentions it in the owners manual. What else do you want? It's not covered by warranty because it is in small print in the manual not to over fill the fuel tank. Like I mentioned before, they DON"T tell you that the flooded carb washes down the cylinders causing excessive oil consumption. Ray, had an older 305G, about a 2008 if I recall, without the vent line and wishes he would have kept it instead. He ran synthetic oil after break in and it never used a drop of oil in in over 2700 hours. He takes meticulous care of his equipment because it has to work when he shows up at a job. He got a new truck and sold the old one as package. When his machine was getting the new engine, Continental are the ones that showed him the 7 others in the shop for the same problem. EFI won't have the problem because there's no carb. Yes Millers can have the same problem and I would bet they know about it and that's why they at least put a sticker on by the gas cap warning not to overfill. Ray ended up selling the new 305 soon after getting the new engine because he so pizzed off about it. He also bought a demo Miller 350P that the pulse didn't work and even after the Miller rep. said it should be covered on warranty, Praxair did nothing so he canceled the deal. A few years ago the oil patch was booming and I'd wager a guess there's 10 times more 305G's sold up here than were you are. I worked at a place that used to order in 20 at a time so they wouldn't run out of stock. They are a very good machine but the vent line problem is real. I've met Cruzer too when he still had his shop and although he's known as Mr. Silicone when it comes to welder remote controls, he's right on the money with the vent line problems. IT IS NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY even if it happens on the first fill up! They told Ray to put 500 hours on his machine because maybe the rings weren't seated yet but the oil consumption got worse instead of better.
Reply:And I wan't to mention, that it does make sense that overfilling the gas tank would lead to gas pouring through the vent line ( and going to the carb). But I'm not a engine and carb expert, so lets hear some real data and personal experiences of this happening if we can please?Dynasty 200DX (2014)Millermatic 211 (2015)Optrel 864 (2014)Smith Medium duty MBA 30510 (Xmas 2014)Tennsmith 16ga 4ft finger brake (2015)Trailblazer 325 EFI and excel Thermal dynamics Cutmaster 82Miller maxtron 450
Reply:Go buy a new cap and vent line . Then do the vent fix and you will have OEM parts to put it back if you have a warranty problem.
Reply:The fact is Miller won't/don't look after the engine warranty anyway, Kohler does, so whatever Miller tells you, the Kohler people will sometimes tell you something entirely different, learned that lesson yesterday
Reply:As a heads up I called Miller yesterday and the nice fella over there did "seem" aware of the backwashing issue and also noted that overfilling of the EFI model is not a good idea either. I don't see how it can cause the same damage but then again I don't know what "bad" is either. He advised me to fill to the line by observing the gas tank while filling by looking through the side panel. I asked if they sold the older vented gas caps for older machines and was told yes so if the threads are correct that could be an option. I am hoping and racking my brain if I were to vent the gas cap and cap the line that it would not cause some other kind of damage to my machine. I feel pretty good it would be ok but what do you all think. Any bad things by venting an EFI machine you all can think of....well other then essentially dumping acid into mother earth's eyes and all. P.S I DID SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER ON AN ALMOST NEW 325 EFI YESTERDAY. The seller has a deposit in route until I can drive the 13 hours to get it in about a week and a half.
Reply:I don't have a dog in this fight, but since the pupose is to allow air into the tank, would not a simple check valve in the vent line also work?- Tim
Reply:No matter what anyone says. Efi machines still are vented somehow. If they weren't you couldn't get the damn cap off when your gas tank was empty and the fuel pump would need to be about 10 horse power to overcome all that vaccum . It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.
Reply:Originally Posted by BrianCThe fact is Miller won't/don't look after the engine warranty anyway, Kohler does, so whatever Miller tells you, the Kohler people will sometimes tell you something entirely different, learned that lesson yesterday
Reply:Originally Posted by outdoortwhat happened?
Reply:Originally Posted by TDog78You are echoing what I have heard again and again regarding arc quality. I really do wonder if you change any of the venting will either company void the warranty on the unit. I was under the impression there was a court ruling stating unless the item being questioned for warranty was the one modified then warranty claims could not be denied but....
Reply:Nothing wrong as long as you don't overfill them, even accidentally. The older machines could be filled full to the top(2"-3" down) with no issues at all. I'd consider gas coming out the filler over filling not 6 or 8" down or only the bottom portion of the tank like the new machines. I think it's a problem that needs to be addressed, maybe by Kohler rather than the welder OEM? |
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