Really, did I really insult this guy

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I offered him 1500 for a out of date, no longer made and replaced by a machine that costs half of his asking price brand new. He told me not to insult him with low ball offers.http://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls/2963042201.htmlLast edited by claymans13; 05-02-2012 at 07:59 AM.ESAB MigMaster 275Miller Econotwin HFMiller Syncrowave 250
Reply:Must not have... since the listing price is now $1500Don't feel bad, I had a guy tell me to **** off and go to hell because I offered him $100 on a  completely disassembled 25 year old miller Roughneck 2e (ac only) with a blown engine.  He was asking $500 and wouldn't go a penny lower than $350.
Reply:sorry, i had the wrong link, i updated it to the correct one.ESAB MigMaster 275Miller Econotwin HFMiller Syncrowave 250
Reply:I don't think so...  People don't seem to understand that when you sell something used, regardless of the condition it's in, it's not worth MSRP anymore.It's no different from cars... buy a new one and drive it home, it's immediately worth 10 grand less.
Reply:I get low-balled all the time on Craigslist.  I usually just tell them "No thanks."  They either up their offer, or never call/email again.  No need for the guy to get all worked up about it.
Reply:From the ad:  "Welding rods acid etch etc"Sounds like lots of money----but......What is the 'acid etch' part about? And the 'etc' ?  Does the deal include a sturdy welding table too, maybe some auto-dark hoods, gloves and a grinder or two? You can ask him for me; I don't mind if I insult him for his being incomplete with the description.
Reply:dang i sold mine in new condition with like 2 hours use for 1000350P 30A spool gun cut master 51  syncro 250 other stuff " take a dog off the street and make him prosper and he will not bite you sad the same cannot be said for man" i didnt use punctuation just to piss you off
Reply:I offered him $1000 to make your offer look better Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:An offer is an offer.  It's always the seller's right to simply say no.  I never understand why people get mad about it.  (It's different if you show up, take up the seller's time, and then offer a fraction of the listed price.)Jack OlsenMy garage website
Reply:Originally Posted by Jack OlsenAn offer is an offer.  It's always the seller's right to simply say no.  I never understand why people get mad about it.  (It's different if you show up, take up the seller's time, and then offer a fraction of the listed price.)
Reply:I didn't really think it was a low ball offer I gave him. If anything its above fair. Used PT225's sell for 2k, used sync 250's sell for less than his asking price. People seem to think now a days that if they have a miller or Lincoln they have gold in their garage anymore.ESAB MigMaster 275Miller Econotwin HFMiller Syncrowave 250
Reply:Originally Posted by claymans13I didn't really think it was a low ball offer I gave him. If anything its above fair. Used PT225's sell for 2k, used sync 250's sell for less than his asking price. People seem to think now a days that if they have a miller or Lincoln they have gold in their garage anymore.
Reply:some people just really think what they have is worth much more than it really is or think what they have is much nicer than it really is, and some people are just idiots miller 330a bp TIGmiller dynasty 200DX TIGmillermatic 185 MIGthermal dynamics cutmaster 101 plasma cuttersnap-on YA5550 plasma cutterhypertherm powermax 30 plasma cutterbaileigh CS225 cold sawetc....
Reply:Originally Posted by ZTFabI don't think anybody said it was...Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. Before I buy or sell something I do plenty of research to see what Fair Market Value is.It sounds as if you have done your research but the seller hasn't ....unless, as Oldiron2 said, there's more to the deal than we're seeing.Maybe after sitting on that "new" welder for a few more months the seller will lower his price to a reasonable amount.
Reply:He will sit on that for some time for what he's asking.I have had several ppl ask if I would be willing to sell my Idealarc 250 over the years. I will say sure...for $800. They usualy say nah, I have seem them for $500 or less. My next comment is; Thats fine, I didnt care to sell it anyway. Bottom line is; any thing is for sale if the price is right but some folks just like fishing.JasonLincoln Idealarc 250 stick/tigThermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52Miller Bobcat 250Torchmate CNC tableThermal Arc Hefty 2Ironworkers Local 720
Reply:Wisconsin sellers with Miller and lincoln machines almost always want big bucks for used . Yes, there are some that list BEYOND MSRP. I called a guy and asked if it was a typo and told me no , I asked how many are you selling for this price ? he hung up. .
Reply:He said he made a mistake and the price is 1900.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleHe said he made a mistake and the price is 1900.
Reply:still wants too much for it..You can get a new squarewave 175 for $1750 after rebate or $1900 with a bunch of welding gear..http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...olnElectric%29tackleexperts.comwww.necessityjigs.comhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/mach...dingequipment/
Reply:Originally Posted by brucerstill wants too much for it..You can get a new squarewave 175 for $1750 after rebate or $1900 with a bunch of welding gear..http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...olnElectric%29
Reply:It's no different from cars... buy a new one and drive it home, it's immediately worth 10 grand less.[/QUOTE]That's why you should never, ever, ever, drive your new car home.  Drive it out to bars, friends houses, shopping, camping, hunting,... but never drive it home.Be nice and pay it forward.