Plasma cutter with built in compressor

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Who sells a good plasma cutter with built in compressor? I think I made a mistake by selling my hobart 250ci. I didn't think I needed it and sold it, but I realized I'm pretty lost without it and projects take a lot longer. The hypertherm is at my dads house since I don't have a compressor and can't find one that will meet the requirements and not be 60 gallons. Space is getting tight. Or should I sell it and get a plasma that runs off less than 6scfm @ 90psi? And get a smaller compressor?The 110v on the hobart was fantasic as well! I don't do anything really thick anyhow.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Why are you against getting a compressor to run the 45?Ed Conleyhttp://www.screamingbroccoli.com/MM252MM211 (Sold)Passport Plus & Spool gunLincoln SP135 Plus- (Gone to a good home)Klutch 120v Plasma cutterSO 2020 benderBeer in the fridge
Reply:Not against it at all, but the requirements are 6scfm at 90psi and the only thing that will do that is a 60 gallon. I have a 1 car garage so space is a premium and I only have 1 220v outlet.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:I don't know if you are able to store tools outside your garage (back yard with a shed? I don't know if you're suburban or urban etc), but if you're tight on space inside and you want to conserve your one 220V outlet, how about a gas engine powered air compressor?  I could store something like this in the back yard and it would not need your 220v outlet.Something like thisRIDGID 9-Gal. Portable Gas Air CompressorDelivers 11.5 SCFM at 40 psi and 10.2 SCFM and 90 psihttp://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ec...1#.UTE36zC8B8E
Reply:Good idea, but I don't have a shed or anything nor could I build one as I am in a rental for the time being. Once I move to a bigger place of my own that is the plan for an air compressor outside the garage.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Ive got an Ingersoll-Rand Garage Mate, It does everything that ive wanted it to do. It might be what you want for space and power. Might be worth a look.  HP: 2, Volts: 115, CFM at 90 PSI: 5.2, Max. PSI: 135, Tank Type: Vertical, Air Tank Size (gal.): 20, Stage: Single, Drive: Belt, Motor Phase(s): Single, Amps: 16JobSmart MIG125Lincoln AC225-SLincoln Pro-Mig 175Dewalt GrindersRidgid ChopsawIR Garage Mate CompressorAny thing worth doing, is worth doing right.
Reply:Nope, it doesn't have enough cfm.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:When I was looking for a compressor I had some of the same constraints as you except my shop is in my basement.  Was really hesitant to try and wrestle a 60 gallon down my stairs.  One option that I found through a local compressor company was that they would build me a 3HP 12cfm/90psi compressor on a 30 gallon tank. You'd still need 220v though.  I think you're going to find that 2HP is about all your going to get out of a 110v circuit, and it will be taking all of a 20A breaker at that.  You're kind of in a quandry.  220v plasma cutter and a 110v compressor or a 110v plasma and a 220v compressor.  Is the 220v used for anything else besides the plasma?  Perhaps swapping out the 220v breaker to a larger one (if the wiring will support it)?
Reply:How long of cuts do you plan on making...?     Unless you're making 6' cuts on 3/4 plate, just get one of those 120V 30 gallon units on wheels.  The tank will buffer enough for most cuts, and in reality the 5.5 cfm@90 psi most of them offer is more than enough for a machine that "recommends" 6 cfm@ 80 psi.
Reply:"Nope, it doesn't have enough cfm. "Are you sure??Just a thought but....  If you go to Lowe's and get the 30 gal. Kobalt compressor you may find it has all you need.  Just a guess.If it doesn't work you can return it within 30 days?  No questions asked.Good luck.Bob
Reply:Bob this one?http://www.lowes.com/pd_221495-14989...sor&facetInfo=Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:There is a style of compressor you might be interested in checking out. They are called Wheelbarrow Air Compressor w/ Electric Motor  110 ac, small and portable with grunt. Cannot recommend not something I use or own, just adding to the conversation.Greg
Reply:Always love to spend other peoples money   At the price of that Kobalt you'd be better off with something like this http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p3694.html.  It's 120/240v. and 6.7cfm@90psi.  Not sure if it's less psi at 110v.
Reply:Gamble - Be on the lookout in your area for something used like this http://bend.craigslist.org/tls/3610020458.html.  I would think there'd be a ton of them in the your area.
Reply:" Bob this one?http://www.lowes.com/pd_221495-14989...sor&facetInfo="Yes, that's the one I have and I'm very happy with it.  I don't remember what it cost.... low $400 ???   BTW you don't want anything with AL. cylinders, liners, or heads.  They are noisy as he!!.  IMHO anyway.
Reply:I emailed about a few, what do you think about these?http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/3639011243.htmlhttp://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/3653550852.htmlTorchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Gamble - The first CL listing is a direct drive and not going to give you the PSI that you're seeking.  Stay away from direct drives,,,,now repeat it wirh me....stay away from direct drives   As for the second CL listing....if you are even remotely considering a 60 gallon compressor look beyond this one.   If you buy a 60 gallon you should buy one that you will want to keep when you eventually move.  Look for one with a cast iron pump.  In my area there are always CH and IR's for sale on CL, something like this http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tls/3624308371.html.  This is the IR SSL3 model.  You can get this brand new for $600+ at your local compressor dealer.  Another one to recommend is this http://salem.craigslist.org/tls/3615587631.html.  I don't think Lowes carries this model anymore, I think the current Kobalt 60 gallon is only putting out 10cfm @ 90 PSI.Am curious why you're considering the 240v, 60 gallon option based on your initial post?One other piece of advice...go visit one of your reputable/local air compressor dealers.  They often have trade-in items for resale.
Reply:Just for giggles I went to the Chicago CL to see what was available in your area.  Here are a few of what I would be looking at.http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/tls/3653225067.htmlhttp://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/tls/3646075286.htmlhttp://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/3641857360.htmlAn the best value so far, http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/3640021467.htmlReally surprised at the lack of used compressors that are reasonably priced in your area.  There were several listig where the sellers asking price was near the same money for a brand new compressor with warranty.
Reply:Originally Posted by ImtrublueAm curious why you're considering the 240v, 60 gallon option based on your initial post?One other piece of advice...go visit one of your reputable/local air compressor dealers.  They often have trade-in items for resale.
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleBob this one?http://www.lowes.com/pd_221495-14989...sor&facetInfo=
Reply:http://www.rolair.net/products/spec_...K17.html#specs
Reply:Any plasma with a built in compressor is pretty much useless,  they are capacity limited to around 18 GAVantage 500's LN-25's, VI-400's, cobramatics, Miller migs, synch 350 LX, Powcon inverters, XMT's, 250 Ton Acurrpress 12' brake, 1/4" 10' Atlantic shear,Koikie plasma table W/ esab plasmas. marvel & hyd-mech saws, pirrana & metal muncher punches.
Reply:Originally Posted by tlsmithhttp://www.rolair.net/products/spec_...K17.html#specs
Reply:Originally Posted by ImtrublueWow, that's a nice slow running small compressor.  Almost 7cfm and 110v option to boot.  Meets all of Gamnble's requirements, except maybe the price ($770)
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