Ideas for hanging 25' torch and foot pedal cable on cart?

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Feel free to post how your torch and foot pedal cables are hung on your cart please or tossed some ideas at me thanks. I'm kinda going for a cool look to. I can take a pic of how my cart looks at this point if that will help?
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Reply:Thanks AK. I like the big radius of the rims.
Reply:I use a Shepards hook type thingy. It's hard to explain so bear with me. 3/4" thin wall conduit 4'ish long with an L welded 5" down from the top which makes a u shape hanger 4" wide and 5" tall. The hooks base slides into two 1" rigid conduit rings, let's say 1" long. One ring has a cap for a stop the other does not. The rings are spaced approximately 12" apart. The open ends on top of the hook hold a mig nozzle snugly, one wrap around the hook and the gun and lead are off the floor. I also hang my tig torch in the other vacant hole on top. 17/26 gas lenses do not fit, standard collet cups fit fine and #9 lense cups fit well too. The hook can be used as a handle to steer your cart around the shop and easily removed for travel. It's a pretty basic setup but meets my needs. If I can remember, next time I get to the shop (it's really just a shed, shop sounds cooler) I'll post a pic or two. I plan on making a new and improved version with two hooks and a cradle for my pedal. If I ever have time that is, too many projects not enough time it's depressing. Good luck with getting organized, it's a never ending battle for me.Thermal arc 211iCk flex-loc 150 & 130Clamps, saws & grindersHarbor freight 80 amp inverter
Reply:Yes I would like to see the pics
Reply:here is where my cart is. The round bar is going to be the handle in the front. I was a inch short of AL is was kinda pi$$ed. I bought almost 40 feet of 1.5 x1/8 wall on CL for 100$ and wasted only about 5 inches of it from cutting. 1 inch short lol it's actually kinda cool tho.
Reply:I've always been meaning to make a triangular holster that the pedal sits in... then just posts of some sort sticking out to loop the leads on.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:If you're using high frequency, make sure to unwrap all of your cables from the machine. It's actually better to hang them separate from the machine. I worked at one place with a Syncrowave 250 and the meters were fried from having the TIG cable coiled on the machine when the high frequency was used.
Reply:Resistance from the cables being rounded up on a holsters?which cables?
Reply:How many cables do you have? The TIG torch and the ground cable. Say you have a table beside the machine and don't need a 25' TIG cable so you leave 10' of it coiled up. The HF can go through the machine case. If you take your TIG torch off and your ground cable, the HF doesn't have a chance to go through the machine case.
Reply:Another good reason to get silicone superflex cables... silicone is a better insulator and keeps the HF from getting out where it shouldn't.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:So the foot pedal is ok?how far should the cables be from the machine?
Reply:I hang my torch on the bottle.Foot control goes on top of the machine.Might make a rack for stuff someday - right after I clean and paint everything  Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:I hang mine also on my bottle Dave. So is it ok to hang the cables like a foot away from the machine?
Reply:I hang my torch hose/cable assembly on the handles on the front of my Sync 250 ... that's bad?
Reply:NONE of the cables should be wrapped up or in loops on the floor when welding, this includes your foot pedal cable too.Torchmate 2x2 CNC with Flashcut CNC controlsHypertherm Powermax45 Esab ET220i Razorweld 195 MigRazorweld 200ac/dc TigTormach 770, Tormach xstechRazorweld, Vipercut/Vipermig, SSC Foot Pedal Dealer
Reply:Where are they supposed to be?
Reply:I slapped this together . bent It over some studs welded to the table. Just rough eyeballed it so don't get the squares and levels out. Tig leads are light weight so the 1/4" rod and unsupported head shouldn't be an issue. Attached ImagesLast edited by jr tig; 03-04-2015 at 12:22 AM.
Reply:Originally Posted by GambleNONE of the cables should be wrapped up or in loops on the floor when welding, this includes your foot pedal cable too.
Reply:With high frequency you don't want your cables wrapped on the machine when welding. It's best to make a big loop on the floor keeping the torch in a single line. High frequency does leak out. Why do think radio's or pacemakers are affected when you're TIG welding? Sometimes having the cables in a loop causes arc problems.
Reply:Ya I can hear my radio bug out somtimes so I know it does wave out. But the cord goes in the machine lol.
Reply:Radios go haywire because electric arcs blast RFIPacemakers are not to be around welding or arcs because there are 2 wires going from the unit into the heart, and they could channel HF directly into your heart and kill you instantly.If the welders case is metal it's going to be grounded and shielded from HF, but the plastic front, or controls/displays probably aren't shielded and the HF can find a path through them and fry them. So yes you should be careful if the leads are coiled up very close to or on the machine.Last edited by MikeGyver; 03-04-2015 at 01:17 AM.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.com
Reply:I was just going to hang my torch near the front of my machine lol. Maybe I'll move it. How many cases of burnt machines have you seen from the torch being to close?
Reply:Originally Posted by MikeGyverI've absolutely never had any issues ever with doing this (from tig, to mig, to 600amp air arcing).I understand the idea, but it's not very prevalent in real life, essentially non-existant under any normal circumstances.
Reply:Yes, that can happen.If they're coiled up on the cart (not touching or right against the machine) or on the floor, there shouldn't be any issue though.Welding/Fab Pics: www.UtahWeld.comOriginally Posted by Gamble...this includes your foot pedal cable too.
Reply:What I did:Took a piece of thinwall tubing (whatever size your torch fits into), I cut a slot wider than the superflex lead, welded a washer on the bottom with a slot cut out lining up with the slot in the tube. Lay the lead in the top of slot and just lower the torch down, it works slickly! (lower tungsten 'shield' down BEHIND wound up leads, this keeps (hot) tip from touching the machine, I used a narrow bracket for the lead as I have a 10 ft lead. It doesnt kink as you can see.Showing starting torch into holder.(before someone starts!!! I sanded off the {yellow} zinc plating before welding, the smoke didnt start till I was done welding)On the other side, I made this carrier for the pedal and lead.Just drop the pedal in to a 'just contact' pocket, no rattling.I leave the 'stock' pedal here since I made my 'new' pedal http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...dal&highlight=All these holders were bolted on in case I didnt like the way they worked, but they're fine as they are.Another thing I did was I made a guard to cover the controls on my 185. Its 1/4" acrylic hinged to a top I made so I could lay leads, helmet, torch, etc on top of welder without it falling off or melting the welders case.You can (sort of) see the rear tabs for keeping it in position & see the springs (looping under the welders handle) that hold it in position. If I bump it too hard, it comes off without 'eff'ing up the welder. -c-What is the sound of one knee jerking?
Reply:Leaving your TIG torch cable AND ground cable wound in a coil when in use can and will cause what is called parasitic capacitance....Where the cable acts like a capacitor and stores, then discharges it's charge and often damage delicate components in circuit boards...The effect is not near as possibly damaging with low freqs, but needs to be considered at higher freqs.Just unwind the torch lead and the work clamp leads all the way and loop them on the floor in non coils AWAY from each other most of their lengths.....It's always ok if your cables cross each other, but never coil them or allow them to run next to each other up close for any distance.Last edited by wornoutoldwelder; 03-27-2015 at 12:25 PM.
Reply:Originally Posted by wornoutoldwelderLeaving your TIG torch cable AND ground cable wound in a coil when in use can and will cause what is called parasitic capacitance....Where the cable acts like a capacitor and stores, then discharges it's charge and often damage delicate components in circuit boards...The effect is not near as possibly damaging with low freqs, but needs to be considered at higher freqs.Just unwind the torch lead and the work clamp leads all the way and loop them on the floor in non coils AWAY from each other most of their lengths.....It's always ok if your cables cross each other, but never coil them or allow them to run next to each other up close for any distance.
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveHow do they make coaxial weld cable work if this is the case?I don't know the answer - makes me curious.
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