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Last week I picked up a clean little Toyota 2FGL7 forklift. It's clearly a gray market import as all the markings are in Japanese. I picked it up cheap because the clutch was stuck. It took all of 30 minutes to pull the cover, slide the throwout bearing back, unbolt the pressure plate, and pop the disk free. Yeah! Of course it's taking a LOT longer to sort the brakes. After rebuilding the master cylinder and adjusting the brakes I discovered one side was adjust all the way out. New shoes are on their way. Aside from a stuck clutch and brakes it runs strong and is darn cute. It's only rated at 450kg (1000 lbs) but it's super maneuverable in the shop and doesn't take up much parking space.It has a D mast, for dumping, which is really neat except the installed forks are very short. They appear to have started out as 30" forks and the dumping use has worn them down a few inches under that. Short forks are fine in the shop but they are proving too short to use with standard pallets. I hung a set of 36" class 2 forks today and moved a few of my typical pallets around, 36" is fine but 42" would be better. Yeah I know it was sketchy but it was for science. At first glance the forks appear to be FEM/ITA Class 1 with one small exception, unlike a typical class 1 fork that has 13" hook spacing, this one has 9" hook spacing. Hooks and everything else are correct for class 1 aside from the spacing.The manual lists a 1070mm fork (42") but I am having a real problem finding these forks. Heck, I'm having trouble finding any class 1 forks. Does anyone know of any forklift junk yards that may have some of these small machines rusting away? I have quote for some custom forks but they are not in the budget.I'll post some pictures of the machine tomorrow. I know boostjdm and a few others have messed around with these small machines. Maybe someone with some experience will chime in.
Reply:When I built my forklift attachment, I salvaged the top carriage rail (with the notches), then built a new bottom rail to fit the hook spacing. I'm wondering if you can just slice the top rail in half or 1/3, move it up on the frame, then make a new bottom rail. Throw some Class II forks on it, and be done. Used forks are pretty cheap.
Reply:I have a set of class 2 forks sitting in the back of the pickup. I was going to cut them down and reweld the hook but they are only 36" forks. The class 2 forks are also heavier, they are 3/4" of an inch wider and 1/4" thicker. They look kinda big on the little machine. The pallets I typically load are under 600 lbs so the added weight of class 2 isn't a real issue but they are tall and the 36" fork was just barely long enough. I'm afraid if I get a weak pallet it could be an issue. The big forklift has 48" forks and I've never had an issue.I ordered a set of fork extensions on the 22nd and they drop shipped from the mfg on the 25th via FedEx. They made it to Troutdale, OR on Monday and have been sitting there all week. I was in Portland yesterday... maybe I just need to pick them up myself. And to think I bought them because I thought it would be faster than making them.
Reply:The fork extensions arrived after being stuck in Troutdale for a week. These look like they will work until I find a proper set of forks. Because some of the pallets hangover is nice to have the added length. The machine appears to handle them no problem. I also snapped a few pictures of the dump. I think I'll build a small bucked for it. The machine is only 34 inches wide so I'm thinking a 36 inch bucket should be about right... of course if I keep it at 34 inches I could still fit through doorways. Last edited by forhire; 07-05-2021 at 09:19 PM.
Reply:Those fork extensions should work fine for now. They are most likely thicker than the OEM forks you want and may need a little extra care occasionally when using broken or sagging pallets or unloading flatdeck trucks on unlevel surfaces. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:Originally Posted by Lis2323Those fork extensions should work fine for now. They are most likely thicker than the OEM forks you want and may need a little extra care occasionally when using broken or sagging pallets or unloading flatdeck trucks on unlevel surfaces.
Reply:If your 36 forks hang properly on that moldboard, why not taper and weld a 6 piece of flat bar to extend the tip?If OSHA doesnt normally visit and you are the only one using the machine you will be fine as you know better than to lift using only the tips. If the forks are inserted into the pallet fully you will never have a problem. You may need to trim a bit of the tapered end of your 36 forks to get a nice square area to weld to. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:Originally Posted by Lis2323If your 36” forks hang properly on that moldboard, why not taper and weld a 6” piece of flat bar to extend the tip?
Reply:Here are the the carriage and fork dimensions. Does anyone know what standard Toyota was using back in the 80s? The clips are 20 degree but it's definitely not FEM/ISO Class 1. Was there a JIS standard back in the day?
Reply:Try Vance lift trucks in Ellensburg, Wa. They used to have acres of scrapped out machines of all makes.
Reply:Originally Posted by 12V71Try Vance lift trucks in Ellensburg, Wa. They used to have acres of scrapped out machines of all makes.
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireIs Vance still open in Ellensburg? I'm pretty sure Lakewood was absorbed by Papé. I'll try calling them in the morning.
Reply:Yeah, I called their old number yesterday morning and was surprised it went through. Unfortunately they didn't have anything suitable other than some blank forks. He said they are simply selling off what remains. It's really too bad. I picked up a couple new pneumatic tires for $1.00 each + shipping off Ebay, complete with tubes and flaps, both front tires for $100.99. I kinda thought it might have been a scam but they arrived quick and appear perfect. I guess they were new pull offs. The seller had 109 of them... or I guess 107 now. These should work well outside. I ordered some steers but they haven't arrived yet.
Reply:what size are those tires and can you post ebay link?
Reply:Originally Posted by filetobeefwhat size are those tires and can you post ebay link?
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireYeah, I called their old number yesterday morning and was surprised it went through. Unfortunately they didn't have anything suitable other than some blank forks. He said they are simply selling off what remains. It's really too bad.
Reply:Originally Posted by forhireCarlisle 5.70-8/5.00-8 T/T/F Forklift Tire. MADE IN THE USA Condition:New Open box TIRES ARE TAKE OFFS WITH TUBES AND FLAPS.https://www.ebay.com/itm/12405848625...53.m2749.l2648The listing now says they are $35 each with free shipping. I got ripped off.
Reply:I don't think I mentioned the brakes were frozen when I got the machine. I had rebuilt the master cylinder because it was rusted solid and in the process of bleeding the system I also adjusted the brakes. The right side adjusted fine but the left side was a the end of the adjuster. So when I pulled the drums and discovered the left side had no lining and the right side was completely oil soaked. I ordered new shoes and wheel cylinders and they arrived today. I had originally just ordered cup seals to do the cylinders but they were on back order and the price had jumped from $4 a set to $27. Wheel cylinders were $55 and in stock. Changing the cylinders turned out to be a bit of a job. About midway through the left side I found that pulling the axle assembly was the fastest way to do it. The right side went twice as fast. After bleeding the system I moved some pallets around outside on the gravel. The new tires made so much difference. I can't wait to fit the new steer tires. They arrived today and came with flaps but no tube... so it may be another day or two.
Reply:A friend gave me an 8" wide by 52" long lumber fork that had no mate. I started by cutting down the hanger on the bandsaw. It made quick work of it... until I ran out of throat and had to roll it. I was actually surprised how easy it was to cut down. Not sure what it weighed but the drop was 45 lbs. I then used cut off wheels to slice it length wise giving me two 4" forks. By the end I had a technique but it was no fun. Next I mounted a few vices in the mill and cleaned up both sides. These little machines use 80mm width forks so I took 15mm off one side and the balance on the other. That trimmed another 20 lbs. The fork now weighs in right around 60 lbs. It's been a fair amount of work so far but I'm happy with the progress. I should note that the forks machine fairly well. The VMC only has 41.375" (1050mm) in the X direction so it took some shifting to clean up lengthwise. I didn't snap any photos. I then hung the fork out the door to do the upright. I had to be careful not home the Y axis or it would rapid a fork straight at me. This was easier than moving/rotating the vises.One down, and one to go. Yeah
Reply:NICE!!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:I finished the second fork today. I remembered to snap a photo of the lengthwise operation. The final thing I needed to do was to cut off the hooks. They were two big for the cutoff saw and the little band saw so I started after it with the cut off wheel and while I struggled to get the wheel into the part if dawned on me the porta-band might be able to slice these off. Sure enough, the porta-band made quick work of it. Now I can start making the hooks. I think I'll make them out of the drop. I can't find a source for class 1 hooks.
Reply:Now I need to make the hooks. I pulled the pin mechanism apart and took some measurements. I also messed around with a few replacement springs. In my opinion these springs are too small and tend to rust away to dust after a few years. I may rework the design a bit. It appears they welded the hook, then drilled through the weld and hook for the pin, and finally welded on the top slot cup. Last edited by forhire; 07-16-2021 at 02:54 AM.
Reply:I'd guess the forks could be T-1 steel so preheat and 11018 would be the rod of choice. If not sure of the fork material a specialty rod based on 312 stainless would be a good option. Something like Supermissleweld rod or other rod designed for difficult to weld steels in the 120,000 to 130,000 tensile range. You can buy these in small packages is why I suggested them.
Reply:Originally Posted by Welder DaveI'd guess the forks could be T-1 steel so preheat and 11018 would be the rod of choice. If not sure of the fork material a specialty rod based on 312 stainless would be a good option. Something like Supermissleweld rod or other rod designed for difficult to weld steels in the 120,000 to 130,000 tensile range. You can buy these in small packages is why I suggested them.
Reply:I thought they used to say if it's got -its or tires it will give you trouble. Now it looks like if it has tires with -its it makes things better.Originally Posted by Welder DaveI thought they used to say if it's got -its or tires it will give you trouble. Now it looks like if it has tires with -its it makes things better.
Reply:You can always foam fill the tires. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
Reply:Originally Posted by Lis2323You can always foam fill the tires.
Reply:Nice forkliftIf was not retired I would want one. Dave Originally Posted by forhireLast week I picked up a clean little Toyota 2FGL7 forklift. It's clearly a gray market import as all the markings are in Japanese. I picked it up cheap because the clutch was stuck. It took all of 30 minutes to pull the cover, slide the throwout bearing back, unbolt the pressure plate, and pop the disk free. Yeah! Of course it's taking a LOT longer to sort the brakes. After rebuilding the master cylinder and adjusting the brakes I discovered one side was adjust all the way out. New shoes are on their way. Aside from a stuck clutch and brakes it runs strong and is darn cute. It's only rated at 450kg (1000 lbs) but it's super maneuverable in the shop and doesn't take up much parking space.It has a D mast, for dumping, which is really neat except the installed forks are very short. They appear to have started out as 30" forks and the dumping use has worn them down a few inches under that. Short forks are fine in the shop but they are proving too short to use with standard pallets. I hung a set of 36" class 2 forks today and moved a few of my typical pallets around, 36" is fine but 42" would be better. Yeah I know it was sketchy but it was for science. At first glance the forks appear to be FEM/ITA Class 1 with one small exception, unlike a typical class 1 fork that has 13" hook spacing, this one has 9" hook spacing. Hooks and everything else are correct for class 1 aside from the spacing.The manual lists a 1070mm fork (42") but I am having a real problem finding these forks. Heck, I'm having trouble finding any class 1 forks. Does anyone know of any forklift junk yards that may have some of these small machines rusting away? I have quote for some custom forks but they are not in the budget.I'll post some pictures of the machine tomorrow. I know boostjdm and a few others have messed around with these small machines. Maybe someone with some experience will chime in.Attachment 1729013
Reply:Coming along really nice. You have some nice machines to work with
Reply:Originally Posted by farmersammmComing along really nice. You have some nice machines to work with
Reply:Wow. Not a pleasant way to find that "you learn something new everyday"I've bought replacement forks before and never even thought to verify the hook angle. I do know that height varies for pin style hanging forks though. Nice job!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk:
Reply:Originally Posted by smithdoorNice forkliftIf was not retired I would want one. Dave
Reply:Originally Posted by whtbaronThat's when you need it the most. Tired of lifting heavy stuff...
Reply:I'm thinking skid steer with quick attach's .... that gym would be a tight fit for my CAT loader...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Yeah. I just placed it inside the door with the forklift and used the pallet jack to put it in place. After 60 years of working alone theres not much I cant move IF I take my time and think it out. Im gonna miss the telehandler with Q/A forks and attachments though. If I ever won the lottery (which aint gonna happen cuz I refuse to buy tickets) I think one of those mini JCB telehandlers the rental yards have would be sweet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:I used to think skid steers would be too small to be of any use, but after borrowing a couple, I changed my mind in a hurry. Once you get up in that 70 to 90 hp range they can do a lot of work in a hurry and the front entry is easy access.LOL... couldn't figure out what a car was doing on top of your garage until I realized I was looking at the top of your cab! Might be overdue for a new set of grandpa glasses... or at least put the ones I have on...250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Originally Posted by whtbaronI used to think skid steers would be too small to be of any use, but after borrowing a couple, I changed my mind in a hurry. Once you get up in that 70 to 90 hp range they can do a lot of work in a hurry and the front entry is easy access.LOL... couldn't figure out what a car was doing on top of your garage until I realized I was looking at the top of your cab! Might be overdue for a new set of grandpa glasses... or at least put the ones I have on...
Reply:I finished the bottom hooks today. They are similar to the top hooks but 10 mm narrower. A narrower hook on the bottom makes it easier to install and move the fork. I then laid out the hooks and decided on a final cut length. I milled the forks to a the final length. I'm into this way too much to risk a poor bandsaw cut. I ended up with a 1/2" more drop due to the thicker fork but the top of the fork is the same as the originals. Overall they actually look pretty good on the machine. I am definitely ready to have real forks, using extensions is getting old.
Reply:I welded the hooks on with 11018. I used a ~300 degree preheat and tried to keep my interpass about the same. I peened the welds with the needle scaler between passes and generally took my time. I welded the sides first, then the top, and finally the inside of the angle. I fretted over the weld order as I was really concerned it might close up on me making them impossible to install on the carriage. In the end my worry was unfounded. Everything welded out fine. I then wrapped them in k-wool until they normalized to room temperature. Tonight I move a few pallets around and they work a LOT better than the extensions. I still need to make the pins but they are good enough to use. A truck is coming on Monday so we'll see how it goes.To setup the lower hook I cut a piece of scrap that measured 200 mm and then spaced the hook on a 5mm hex key. One of the forks has a chip in the end. I am planning on cutting them down a few inches. They are 52" long right now. I definitely need to round the corners. I haven't decided what shape I'd like the ends to be.
Reply:Truly nice work!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk:
Reply:There is a forklift fork junk yard near me that sells new and used. They have an add on Facebook marketplace:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...c-653afdd85aa7
Reply:Originally Posted by KenOThere is a forklift fork junk yard near me that sells new and used. They have an add on Facebook marketplace:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...c-653afdd85aa7 |
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