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Reply:Funny I just saw those Vice Grip/F hybrid clamps today when I ran over to TSC for more mig wire. I played with one waiting in line at the register. I'll have to buy a pair to add to my collection. The HF vice grip knock offs are junk. I have a varied collection of Vice Grip SP and R 6,9,11,18 & 24's, Pony bar clamps, a variety of Bessy/Stronghand & Hobart F clamps, a few sets of 9 1/2 Bessy corner clamps and a few Kant Twists. I also have a few pairs of Stronghand Shark clamps I seem to be using rather often, they are kind of like a less expensive Kant Twist with a quick adjusting button.No matter how many clamps you have it seems like you just need one more for a project.Sent from my SCH-I605 using TapatalkRyanMiller Multimatic 200 tig/spool gun/wireless remoteMillermatic 350P, Bernard/XR Python gunsMiller Dynasty 350, Coolmate 3.5 & wireless remoteCK WF1 TIG wire feederMiller Spectrum 375 XtremeOptrel e684Miller Digital EliteMiller Weld-Mask
Reply:Originally Posted by xryanFunny I just saw those Vice Grip/F hybrid clamps today when I ran over to TSC for more mig wire. I played with one waiting in line at the register. I'll have to buy a pair to add to my collection. The HF vice grip knock offs are junk. I have a varied collection of Vice Grip SP and R 6,9,11,18 & 24's, Pony bar clamps, a variety of Bessy/Stronghand & Hobart F clamps, a few sets of 9 1/2 Bessy corner clamps and a few Kant Twists. I also have a few pairs of Stronghand Shark clamps I seem to be using rather often, they are kind of like a less expensive Kant Twist with a quick adjusting button.No matter how many clamps you have it seems like you just need one more for a project.Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
Reply:Originally Posted by Iain PI bought a pair of these from the TSC clearance bin because they looked interesting. I like them and now have a drawer full of them. I did modify them by welding a bolt to the sliding jaw screw to act as a handle because I couldn't turn it with gloves on. Other than that for $8 it hard to complain.
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749I got some of these several years ago on clearance somplace. I think I have three pairs of them. Haven't seen them anywhere since..
Reply:I want to say I got them at, of all places Walmart. They were on clearance and what I bought was all they had.I think they were like $14/ea.I'm not crazy about the Bessy clamps unless I need to put a lot of force on something. I have like six sets of those, but rarely use them.Expert Garage Hack....https://www.facebook.com/steven.webber.948
Reply:An old bumper jack with the head turned around works great if you need to move a piece of metal along way under pressure so you can get a clamp on it.
Reply:I'm surprised with the negatively towards the HF vise clamps, I have a dozen of them that have been great. The adjustment screw is rougher than my vise grip branded ones but I find the clamping ability to be equal. They aren't c clamps, they weren't made to apply 5 tons of pressure... My c clamps are wilton, Armstrong and hargrave. Im a big fan of Kant twist clamps, the 6" deep clamps are my "go to" clamps
Reply:I also have a bunch of HF vise clamps. I paid about $6 each, and I figured if they wore out or I had to perform some sort of hack/repair on them I'd probably still be ahead of an Irwin for $12-18. The only problem is that I have had absolutely no problems with them... Although I generally take really good care of my tools in the first place. I also agree with Mccool; I don't try to use them in place of c-clamps either.Sent from my MB865 using TapatalkSynchrowave 250Lincoln WeldPack 180HDPropane torchhandyman's encylopedia collection of all types of toolsJack of all trades, ace of none...
Reply:I like these very old Jorgensens with a quick release that I bought for $1 each. I think they're 8"... might be 10". ----If there's one thing I've learned this past year, one can never have enough clamps. Every shape, style, and size will be used sooner or later.... even really small parallel and tiny C clamps.--MM 211Smith Tru Lite O/A set, Thanks Bob!Lincoln AC-225--But you must not change one thing, one pebble, one grain of sand, until you know what good and evil will follow on that act. The world is in balance, in Equilibrium- Ursula K. Le Guin
Reply:Originally Posted by EquilibriumI like these very old Jorgensens with a quick release that I bought for $1 each. I think they're 8"... might be 10". ----If there's one thing I've learned this past year, one can never have enough clamps. Every shape, style, and size will be used sooner or later.... even really small parallel and tiny C clamps.--
Reply:Originally Posted by xryanNo matter how many clamps you have it seems like you just need one more for a project.
Reply:Heavy duty type all steel screw clamps will get your tough job done, no matter what brand if you just want high value performance of your money, check it out. Attached ImagesAll Steel Sliding Bar Clamps--Round Pad & Hex Padhttp://www.chireetools.com/products/f_type_bar_clamps/
Reply:Ehoma makes the finest F-clamps on the planet. Grip on makes the best quick clamp( Vice grip type-----Chads tools) there are.Olympia Quick release C clamps that are awesome and only available used.The rest ? Keep em. I dont need them
Reply:I'll add one for the beginners. Milwaukee makes a decent welding tong in a few flavores. Not too bad. Better than Irwins shiit(original vice grip) by far
Reply:I don't know where some mfgrs get off charging the prices they get for F clamps. (Does the "F" in "F clamp" stand for Festool?) They seem to think they're made of gold or something, when they probably cost about a nickel to make. The F clamps I've bought from HFT have been fine, though even they seem overpriced to me.
Reply:I've been more than happy with my Harbor Freight F clamps and bremen locking pliers type clamps in all flavors. I'd put them against pretty much any brand in the same flavor/size. I agree most big name clamps are ridiculous in price, many are made in the same low production cost factories as the cheaper brands as well. Made in a first world country should add a premium, but the big names go overboard. They had a good run overcharging everyone, but as the industry catches on (weldor egos get less bruised as "non industrial" brands/stores lose stigmas due to widespread use and availability of reviews) the prices will surely fall to closer reflect the true value of the tools. It's happened/is happening in many segments. Power tools from circular saws to lathes, hand/mechanics tools, pneumatic tools, etc. have all dramatically dropped in price since the good ol' popular mechanics days. The quality has gone down on many of the tools, but tools of a professional/industrial quality are cheaper (with inflation) than they've ever been. Weird time to be alive, the market is shifting rapidly!
Reply:Not all f clamps are created equal. Some have copper type acme screw so slag wont stick to the threads as well as heavy duty swivels on the end of the threaded rod. If you are playing with 1/4 then you won't really need a beefy clamp but when you start clamping heavier guage materials like 1 and up then you are going to need and appreciate clamps built with quality heavy duty materials that have a higher clamping force rating and generally a better warranty period.Last edited by N2 Welding; 12-21-2018 at 11:00 AM.Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo. Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
Reply:The copper is nice but really not necessary IMO. A little pam or anti spatter spray/nozzle gel makes for a smooth screw and a happy clamp. I haven't had the harbor freight clamps too long (about 8 months) as they are relatively new to the store, but so far so good even on high clamping loads. Time will tell and the weak point on many F clamps for me has been the swivel pad. No doubt the highest priced clamps usually use better components (metal) but the Harbor freight clamps seem to make up for it with sheer amount of material. No one can form a 1" (or even close) and up plate with an F clamp, if you can you must have pipe wrenches for hands! But for clamping even thick materials with enough huevos to fight the spring out, the berger (HF) clamps have held up fine. Have you had any experience with them N2 Welding? I'd suggest you try them if you haven't, you might be pleasantly surprised and the price is right. Happy welding! PS I've had a few clamps blow up on me in the past, and it is NOT a pleasant experience!Last edited by SlowBlues; 12-21-2018 at 11:14 AM.
Reply:Kant twist are nice and hold strong. They are more of a precision tool. Much Slower to use than c-clamps. Nice since the swivel pads are square and can be used to square corners. The swivels have grooves for holding different objects. Also the bronze swivel is good for soft material. Rarely use mine...the last clamps I will touch.I use f-clamps Bessey and stronghand and vice clamps. Custom cut Bessey table clamps too. Bar clamps too. Quality magnets and fireball squares are increasing in usefulness and replacing or reducing clamping need.
Reply:Originally Posted by SlowBluesThe copper is nice but really not necessary IMO. A little pam or anti spatter spray/nozzle gel makes for a smooth screw and a happy clamp. I haven't had the harbor freight clamps too long (about 8 months) as they are relatively new to the store, but so far so good even on high clamping loads. Time will tell and the weak point on many F clamps for me has been the swivel pad. No doubt the highest priced clamps usually use better components (metal) but the Harbor freight clamps seem to make up for it with sheer amount of material. No one can form a 1" (or even close) and up plate with an F clamp, if you can you must have pipe wrenches for hands! But for clamping even thick materials with enough huevos to fight the spring out, the berger (HF) clamps have held up fine. Have you had any experience with them N2 Welding? I'd suggest you try them if you haven't, you might be pleasantly surprised and the price is right. Happy welding! PS I've had a few clamps blow up on me in the past, and it is NOT a pleasant experience!
Reply:I purchased a Burger F clamp right after HF put them on the shelf. I am not knocking them just saying you get what you pay for and you can see a difference in build quality of the beefier F clamps.I dont want a bunch of oil on the threads of my clamps. Oil is a dust magnet. Metal dust tends to make threads bind and harder to turn.Last edited by N2 Welding; 12-21-2018 at 01:14 PM.Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo. Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
Reply:Mostly C-clamps and a few strong hands here.I do have the cut file to make Kant-twist clamps, I've been wanting some for some time now.12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.I only have a facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/VPT/244788508917829 |
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