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I have been looking for a horizontal boring mill for a while and one finally came available about 350 miles away Im 2 trips into it and have 2 more to get it disassembled and hauled the good part is once its here I shouldn't run out of travels and table space for a while here is some pictures of the table of course a rain storm just came through. its cleaned up now, total weight will be around 40000 lbs but it was 13' wide so I had to disassemble it.
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Reply:Wowza, that's a chunk of iron.
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Reply:You must me trying to keep up with Brian bloc on you tube. He has a gigantic mill like thisMillermatic 252millermatic 175miller 300 Thunderboltlincoln ranger 250smith torcheslots of bfh'sIf it dont fit get a bigger hammer
Reply:Holy crap.  Looking forward to seeing it set up
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Reply:im trying to figure out what machines in the shop to get rid of so I can  get it in and be usableDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Originally Posted by idacal
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im trying to figure out what machines in the shop to get rid of so I can  get it in and be usable
Reply:Im hoping its useful once its set up, right now, I have a clapped out cincy #3 vertical and 80% of what I try to do could either be done in a tight bridgeport or  I run out of travel and height.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Originally Posted by idacal
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Im hoping its useful once its set up, right now, I have a clapped out cincy #3 vertical and 80% of what I try to do could either be done in a tight bridgeport or  I run out of travel and height.
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Reply:it came with a 32 or 36" square rotary table and a home built 48" angle plate. facing head, the tail support and a pallet full of line boring bars so fairly well equipt but never everything of course.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:That's seriously gorgeous.  Part of me wants to hit it with some clear poly and use it as the dining room table!
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Originally Posted by idacal
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it came with a 32 or 36" square rotary table and a home built 48" angle plate. facing head, the tail support and a pallet full of line boring bars so fairly well equipt but never everything of course.
Reply:Maybe want to look at some of bcbloc02 videos on you tube of his setting up a big boring mill.
Reply:Its a morse 5 taper and didnt come with any end mill holders im trying to find an adjustable retaining key i dont know how big of face mill i can run on On  morse 5 so that kind of stuff is what im in the proccess of ordering and finding. Im not look forward to the process of leveling it at allDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Well bcbloc02 also made a video of making a retaining key.
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Originally Posted by idacal
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Its a morse 5 taper and didnt come with any end mill holders im trying to find an adjustable retaining key i dont know how big of face mill i can run on On  morse 5 so that kind of stuff is what im in the proccess of ordering and finding. Im not look forward to the process of leveling it at all
Reply:the guy said it was a 1971 but I didn't verify it could be older it came off of a naval base. dont know why they would have had it. it has the retaining key slot for holding morse cutters in. but we will see. all the cast surfaces still had the scraping marks and it has ground hard ways couldn't see any damage on them but until its here I can't really look it over to see if I bought a lemon or a good machine.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:&1 is only a couple of years older than ours was, it would have been around a 73 or 74.IMPEACH BIDEN!NRA LIFE MEMBERUNITWELD 175 AMP 3 IN1 DCMIDSTATES 300 AMP AC MACHINEGOD HELP AMERICA!“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream".RONALD REAGAN
Reply:You could probably make replacement parts for your 16" naval gun mount on that thing.  You do own a 16" naval gun don't you??????????????
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Reply:lol  no naval guns for me coundnt find powder anyway. I ended up buying an international 4800 Digger derrick on an air force base so that is turning into a cluster trying to get it off the base. Need to get a sponser to get on the base or i guess just have a trucking outfit pick it up not sure how to deal with base access. That is going to tie me up for a while before i can get the rest of the millDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Originally Posted by idacal
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lol  no naval guns for me coundnt find powder anyway. I ended up buying an international 4800 Digger derrick on an air force base so that is turning into a cluster trying to get it off the base. Need to get a sponser to get on the base or i guess just have a trucking outfit pick it up not sure how to deal with base access. That is going to tie me up for a while before i can get the rest of the mill
Reply:The air base in OKC has auctions on some government surplus site.  I forget which one.Anyways, I bought some steering tires for one of the big trucks.  Got a good price on the bid.But!!!!!  The way they run the thing there............all stuff that's on the auction site is warehoused in a low security section that's just off base.  You go there, show your paperwork, and they load your truck.  No messing around with base security.  And!!!!! they had some big stuff in that warehouse.........machinery, vehicles, equipment.  I was really impressed with the way they run it.
Reply:That's a really impressive looking table... looking forward to seeing the whole machine put back together!Me, I'm just starting to think I need a knee mill!Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Originally Posted by farmersammm
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Sounds familiar.I bought an abandoned vehicle from an Army base.  The act of just getting through the gate to pick it up, was almost like applying for a passport.  I'm surprised they didn't ask for a DNA sample.  We spent over 2hrs just getting on base
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The real hoot................they just waved us through on the way out.  (WOW!)  I could have had the base commander lashed to the trailer, and they wouldn't have noticed
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Congratulations. Throw up a lean-to and keep all the machines.
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Have you seen Raymond Menendez (TheMetalRaymond) on youtube? No commentary, just one skilled dude in Spain working his horizontal mill.
Reply:finally all the stars alined and I made it back to montana to get the base  of my  mill. still need one more trip but it will be a run up there and run back last part can be loaded with  forklift easily. this piece was 21000 lbs and had to be lifted off a sub base and rolled out of the building hopefully I can get the last piece next week and start figuring out where im going to put it in the shop.
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Reply:They are fun to run.They great tool when need one. My self like ones where table does not rotate. The rotation is great paper but turn as you run the machine.Dave
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Originally Posted by idacal
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I have been looking for a horizontal boring mill for a while and one finally came available about 350 miles away Im 2 trips into it and have 2 more to get it disassembled and hauled the good part is once its here I shouldn't run out of travels and table space for a while here is some pictures of the table of course a rain storm just came through. its cleaned up now, total weight will be around 40000 lbs but it was 13' wide so I had to disassemble it.
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Originally Posted by forhire
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Have you seen Raymond Menendez (TheMetalRaymond) on youtube?
Reply:Is that a G&L?
Reply:finally had time to get this thing in the shop, rented a 15000 forklift because every machine in the shop had to come out to get this in. the smaller fork and the skid steer did most of the work but the mill, radial, and shaper, were to heavy and couldn't be lifted easily with 2 machines no pictures moving them out. picture of the lathe going out. lifted it off of the trailer with my good old drill rig. haven't seen the shop this empty in years.
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Reply:here is some after the table is on but we still have hours of leveling. the  lathe is back in, and the machines that have to be fit back in there I think the shaper is going elsewhere I have no place to put it and I don't use it much at all but I'm sentimentally still attached to it
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Originally Posted by idacal
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here is some after the table is on but we still have hours of leveling. the  lathe is back in, and the machines that have to be fit back in there I think the shaper is going elsewhere I have no place to put it and I don't use it much at all but I'm sentimentally still attached to it
Reply:Wow that lathe is no joke.Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo.  Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
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Originally Posted by N2 Welding
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Wow that lathe is no joke.
Reply:the worst part bout the lathe  is i have already ran out of swing on it, not length though have used most of it many times. its tired and close to the chuck is fairly inaccurate so get it to within .005 then do it with emory cloth but it works most of the time for what I do. would like to replace it with an accurate 4' bed and just have this one for the longer work, but no room no room. this was a quick move everything out, and move it back in, because I needed my trailers back. so no time to paint if we slow down one of these winters, painting will keep the guys busy for a whileLast edited by idacal; 06-05-2021 at 09:22 AM.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:When you do get to paint, you'll find that older OSB will soak up a pile. Might be easier and not much more money to cover it in white metal. You get the added bonus of better spark protection.250 amp Miller DialArc AC/DC StickF-225 amp Forney AC Stick230 amp Sears AC StickLincoln 180C MIGVictor Medalist 350 O/ACut 50 PlasmaLes
Reply:Painting osb is not to bad if you use an oil primer first.    Water base primer keeps bleeding through
Reply:the stuff that was painted, was with oil base, most of the shop besides that one corner has sheetrock on top of the osb up 4' for fire. thats where the lathe was and was to tight to work back there. I dont care for metal interior walls in a shop its too sharp once its damaged can't hang anything without special mounts. cant lean anything against the walls without bending it. I was buying osb as needed for temporary projects then using it to sheet the shop, that's why only part of  the shop is sheeted or painted, haven't slowed down for 4 years to have time for anything that isn't 100% nessasaryDo not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:I'd like to see a pic of an operator standing in front of the machine near the chuck for a size perspective.  I know it's a big machine but still can't help but wonder how tall it is.Lincoln, ESAB, Thermal Dynamics, Victor, Miller, Dewalt, Makita, Kalamzoo.  Hand tools, power tools, welding and cutting tools.
Reply:That skid plate under it is 10’8” wide it its about 9’ tall facing chuck is 24” with as much shop space as ittakes im having second thoughtS about it. may just put it up for sale, Its easy to get out now we will give it a month and see how much we use it.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:Such a beast of a machine. I bet if you get rid of it, a job will come in that absolutely would have required the capacity...What is the lathe, what make? It looks like around 17-19" swing? It's a similar problem to most older lathes these days, they all need bed grinds...Last edited by Munkul; 06-07-2021 at 05:42 AM.Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Reply:the lathe is a monarch 60 series 20" swing about 13' between centers definitely needs some work, might replace it next year will see  how this year goes.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Reply:That's bigger than the photos suggest, then! What a unit.Probably worth the cost and hassle of a bed grind...Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
Reply:idacal, thank you for sharing your new machine project in search of wider travels and larger work envelope.There were jobs in mind when you started on the hunt for a bigger capacity machine.  Hopefully once the first one comes up, the extra floor space will seem like a reasonable inconvenience.With regards to how much shop space it is taking up, ... maybe this is a dumb idea ... but could you "when not in use" travel the table up close to the head stock and then park a bunch of fork-lift-able stuff at the far end?  The steel floor bracing looks like it would block any roller cabinets, wire racks, or the like.
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Originally Posted by idacal
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here is some after the table is on but we still have hours of leveling. the  lathe is back in, and the machines that have to be fit back in there I think the shaper is going elsewhere I have no place to put it and I don't use it much at all but I'm sentimentally still attached to it
Reply:its a 4' jet its defiantly not american iron but it works decent gets quite a bit of flex when really working though if I was to get another I would get a heavier older one.Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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