Having trouble with uphill corner/fillet welds, running 6011 1/8" rod. Hows everyone do this? got a welding test wensday.
Reply:Where are you having trouble? Pics? I run my amps a smudge lower. Keep a nice tight arc. And remember that the heat rises so the tendency for the bead to roll out will be greater nearest the top of your work piece. With a fast freeze rod you shouldn't have a problem though.
Reply:Inside corner, Im assuming? Like a T joint?I find it a little easier with 6010. Heat travels upward, so I generally turn my machine down a little every so often as I weld. Youll want you rod to point up a little bit, but not much. Keep it almost horizontal, this is something else youll have to adjust as you go along.It just takes some practice. It took me forever to get it down in school. Good luck dude. What machine/rod size/current are you running?[Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:I have weld on the sides and a empty middle or just a big cluster **** ofa weld, this is the only weld position i cant do..
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ang Fronty, beat me too it [Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:Originally Posted by Weldin to liveI have weld on the sides and a empty middle or just a big cluster **** ofa weld, this is the only weld position i cant do..
Reply:Originally Posted by LanseYoull want you rod to point up a little bit, but not much.
Reply:Yes a t joint, and yall really weld with very little angle on this particular weld?
Reply:Yup!! Good luck, and post pics [Account Abandoned 8/8/16 Please Do Not Attempt Contact Or Expect A Reply]. See you on YouTube! -ChuckE2009
Reply:what kinda pattern?
Reply:keep a tight arc. Rod angle will be helpful if its 10degrees up from perpendicular. Amperage is important for vertical up, especially if you are still learning how to manipulate a good puddle. Try turning it down 5 amps from what you would use for a horizontal. Also 6011 try whipping.Weldanpower 225 G7Ironworkers Local #24
Reply:Originally Posted by Weldin to livewhat kinda pattern?
Reply:Originally Posted by Weldin to liveHaving trouble with uphill corner/fillet welds, running 6011 1/8" rod. Hows everyone do this? got a welding test wensday.
Reply:Originally Posted by Donald BranscomWednesday. fail
Reply:I don't use 6011, but I will quickly explain how I run a 3 pass 3F with 6010.Root Pass: Electrode slightly uphill from horizontal - Adjust as needed to compensate. Tight arc staight into the middle of the joint. Slight upward whipping action.Hot Pass: Electrode slightly uphill from horizontal - Adjust as needed to compensate. Tight arc, following metal from one side to the other - Resembles a flat "U" shape as I travel. Very slight uphill progression with each pass - Almost stacking one pass on top of another. Quick across center, slowing down enough on edges to burn in and deposit.Cap Pass: Electrode slightly uphill from horizontal - Adjust as needed to compensate. Tight arc, with straight side-to-side weave. Quick across center, again slowing enough on edges to burn in, and deposit to prevent undercut.Everyone has their own way, Your mileage may vary.When I am done, the pattern of the weld deposits are almost horizontal in appearance - I am not a big fan of sloppy, sagging "Smiley Faces"I use the same general procedure for 7018 except with that I run my Root Pass slower, side to side, and no upwards whipping action.Works for me anyway. Good Luck on your test.Donald - Kind of a crappy, non-supportive response from you. Having a Bad Day?Later,Jason
Reply:What dose "3 F" mean?Learning one rod at a time
Reply:Originally Posted by Vince_oWhat dose "3 F" mean?
Reply:If you have material on the sides but a weak or empty middle then your bridging the root instead of following the wall into the root and back out. Even though you don't want to spend allot of time in the root you still have to get in there long enough to leave material otherwise you will have issues like what your seeing now or incomplete fusion. Set up a rhythm to your weave like a 1, 2, cross over, 1, 2, cross over, and during the cross over make it no longer than the time it would take to say 1 which helped me allot. I've done the J and U weave and both work well for vertical work including on T joints. Maintain your work angle at 90 or just slightly below by 5 degree's and drop your heat about 10 to 15 amps from what you had done horizontally. The biggest thing is you have to be comfortable and not worry about it and it will come or you could do what I did and get all torqued up calling the weldmont every dirty name in the book twice over accusing its mother of indiscretions with every major football team and all of Canada and then start back on it and find that you feel much better after venting and now you can run vertical like a superstar.Welding Supervisor Department of Corrections.
Reply:Originally Posted by Donald BranscomWednesday. fail
Reply:Originally Posted by Weldin to liveOnly have to pass flat, horizontal, and vertical butt to get job then they train me on what needs worked on.
Reply:If they are having you weld with 6011 then they just want to look at the finished weld. So step it in there. 6011 is not a certifiable rod anyway. Doesnt have enough flux on it. Harold
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ot of good information listed above. Try different applications and go with the one that works for you. I personally like to hold the rod 90 degrees to the iron. If you are getting close to the top and your puddle is starting to get loose, pull out and let it cool a little. If they will let you, run a 3/32 that way you can run a lot colder. Make sure you position your coupon where you are totally comfortable. Good luck !!
Reply:Originally Posted by Big65moparThe biggest thing is you have to be comfortable and not worry about it and it will come or you could do what I did and get all torqued up calling the weldmont every dirty name in the book twice over accusing its mother of indiscretions with every major football team and all of Canada and then start back on it and find that you feel much better after venting and now you can run vertical like a superstar.
