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Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:34:58 GMT
what coolant should I put in a Miller Water Cooler????please, I want to make this cooler and torch last!!!!~John
Reply:Miller.Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:what should a guy pay a gallon?~John
Reply:Half what they try charge you Dave J.Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~ Syncro 350Invertec v250-sThermal Arc 161 and 300MM210DialarcTried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Reply:distilled water with some antibacterial growth inhibitor (like they put in humidifiers).  Provided you don't have a chance of the water freezing.  If freezing could occur use the miller fluid.  Just my 2 cents.  The distilled water and inhibitor is quite cheap and works just fine.
Reply:What about a "wetting" agent so the water clings to the hot torch parts, instead of skipping over them because of the radiant heat.
Reply:I see a 20 page thread very soon...LolMiller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Originally Posted by John TI see a 20 page thread very soon...Lol
Reply:My Panasonic cooler says purified water 精製水 and if it can freeze then just add antifreeze.Dragon D-150 Arc WelderHobart Handler 175 Set up with 100% CO²WT-60 Plasma Arc Panasonic TIG Star YC-300TWX-2 Panasonic YX-0092UW Water Cooler for the TIG
ReplyI need a cut and dry answer!!!!!!!!!o a search on it.  You will find a million opinions.  The only one that is 100% on the money (and won't void warranty) is Miller Coolant which is 50/50 pure Ethylene Glycol (EG) and Distilled water.  Look up the MSDS on it.  Store bought auto AF is EG with silicates and coloring added.  Apparently these additives are what can affect the small passages in the tig lines and torch.  Pure EG is hard to find and expensive.  Some say Toyota antifreeze is the best with the least additives.  That being said, I use distilled water and RV antifreeze (propylene glycol) in mine without a problem. No way I'm paying $90 for 3 gallons of coolant.  No problems for 2 years now running up to 300 amps on a CK230 and a CM3.TA Arcmaster 300CM3XMT 304S22P12 suitcase feederX-Treme 12VSOptima pulserTA161SMaxstar 150STLHypertherm PM45OP setupStihl 020AVP, 039, 066 Magnum
Reply:Originally Posted by Drf255Do a search on it.  You will find a million opinions.  The only one that is 100% on the money (and won't void warranty) is Miller Coolant which is 50/50 pure Ethylene Glycol (EG) and Distilled water.  Look up the MSDS on it.  Store bought auto AF is EG with silicates and coloring added.  Apparently these additives are what can affect the small passages in the tig lines and torch.  Pure EG is hard to find and expensive.  Some say Toyota antifreeze is the best with the least additives.  That being said, I use distilled water and RV antifreeze (propylene glycol) in mine without a problem. No way I'm paying $90 for 3 gallons of coolant.  No problems for 2 years now running up to 300 amps on a CK230 and a CM3.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcIt's like getting an opinion on gravity.  It only runs in one direction, but you'll get 30 different answers.
Reply:The previous owner of my syncro ran orange antifreeze in the cooler since he bought it new...30 years ago. Still works good. Take it FWIWMiller 211Hypertherm PM 451961 Lincoln Idealarc 250HTP 221  True Wisdom only comes from Pain.
Reply:Originally Posted by SuperArcIt's like getting an opinion on gravity.  It only runs in one direction, but you'll get 30 different answers.
Reply:Originally Posted by PoptmProvided you don't have a chance of the water freezing.
Reply:I never knew this was an issue til today. lol been running regular green antifreeze since the mid 80's, the last 15 in an unheated garage, with no problems. Maybe I need to change it for something more expensive.
Reply:Originally Posted by welderjI never knew this was an issue til today. lol been running regular green antifreeze since the mid 80's, the last 15 in an unheated garage, with no problems. Maybe I need to change it for something more expensive.
Reply:We got some Dynaflux Defense 929 coolant concentrate.  About $18. a gallon, mix with water depending on temperature.  Weldmark also brands the same stuff.http://weldingdirect.com/coolpumlubfo.htmlhttp://weldingsupplies.dynaflux.com/...s/defense-929?"USMCPOP" First-born son: KIA  Iraq 1/26/05Syncrowave 250 w/ Coolmate 3Dialarc 250, Idealarc 250SP-175 +Firepower TIG 160S (gave the TA 161 STL to the son)Lincwelder AC180C (1952)Victor & Smith O/A torchesMiller spot welder
Reply:If you guys want quality like Toyota go with cat elc coolant    It's red in color and rated to 500000 miles in a diesel also contains adative to prevent silicate issues and issues with a.uminum.       Doesn't have to be cat branded but diesel rated extended life coolant can usually get straight for about 12$a gal
Reply:Originally Posted by large-humanIf you guys want quality like Toyota go with cat elc coolant    It's red in color and rated to 500000 miles in a diesel also contains adative to prevent silicate issues and issues with a.uminum.       Doesn't have to be cat branded but diesel rated extended life coolant can usually get straight for about 12$a gal
Reply:Originally Posted by 7A749This horse has been beat a thousand times.Do a search & you'll see for yourself.I run Miller coolant. Always have, always will.My cost is around $21 a gallon for it.I know other stuff works & I've come to see that's absolutely true.That's just what I do. IMHO of course
Reply:There is no straight answer as to what coolant. I've run tap water with a sink, straight distilled water, straight distilled with soluble oil and Lysol, straight distilled with Lysol alone, 25% GM Dex Cool and real Miller Coolant (way, way, way too expensive). The only thing I haven't tried yet is Karo Corn Syrup.I've never had a torch burn up on any of it. My welding school teacher ran his TIG machines with tap water out of a sink. I'd do that if I had a sink.  It's all good as far as I'm concerned.Miller Millermatic 252Miller Syncrowave 200Liincoln AC-DC 225Victor O-A Set
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveHey, personal experience only counts if it agrees with the manufacturers recommendations
Reply:I wonder what the chances of that happening to a member who lives in Alaska might be....
Reply:Originally Posted by MinnesotaDaveHalf what they try charge you

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