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Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:05:36 GMT
Hi all,Does anyone know what type of connector Lincoln is using on the newer welders like the C300? I want to build an adapter cable for a spool gun I already have. The C300 manual has all the pinouts I need (just 24V and and dry contact outputs from the trigger relay) but I can't find anything out about the actual connector.It's a round connector about 1" in diameter with 3 small lugs or bayonets equally spaced on the outside and 12 pins. It's not the standard 97-series Amphenol like I've seen on many other welders.Thanks!John
Reply:there should be a code number/letters stamped on one side or the other of the plug or receptical      if you can see those numbers.. I can find the plug and send u a link for it if you cannot find it yourself.   for example my V205T is  18-12,   my Powcon is 20-29. these plugs are expensive esp if they are the metal housing ones.   I order mine from Mouser.  figure $30 to $60 per plug.  I am sure direct from lincoln they cost even more....  when I ordered my Migmaster plugs it was about half the price from mouser than what esab wanted for the same plug.you can find all the plug layouts on their website but its a bit tedious,  I have the couple thousand page catalog from them and its much easier to look up the plugs in the old school paper catalogLast edited by soutthpaw; 09-09-2011 at 02:44 AM.Tiger Sales:  AHP Distributor    www.tigersalesco.comAHP200x; AHP 160ST; MM350P,  Spoolmatic 30A; Everlast PowerTig 185; Thermal Dynamics 60i plasma.  For Sale:  Cobra Mig 250 w/ Push-pull gun.  Lincoln Wirematic 250
Reply:Well, it looks like I found it at Digikey:part# PT06A-14-12P(SR)-NDIt's a 12-position bayonet mount MIL SPEC connector with pin arrangement 14-12. I'll let y'all know when for sure when it comes in. Cost is about $37.John
Reply:Hi all,Here is an update on my project. I wanted to build an adapter so my Spoolmatic 1 could work with other welders. Unfortunately, this machine requires a 35V power supply and control module, which I don't have.  So I got the schematic from Miller and built an equivalent circuit, tracked down the connectors and hooked up a power supply.  Here's what I have so far:Now the only issue I have is that the Lincoln seems to want to run the built-in feeder when I pull the trigger on the spool gun. It's supposed to auto-sense which one is being used. I wonder if I need to add the 5K wire speed control pot (not used with the Spoolmatic) so that it can tell I'm connected? FYI, the welder is a Powerwave C300, and I've already set the P.17 parameter.Thanks!Arclight Attached Images
Reply:That is what you need. I wanted to run my LN-25 pro off of the C-300, and used the spool-gun amptrol to turn the contactor on. I can use the CV setting #5, and any other non synergic slope setting that way.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i
ReplyLincoln 12 pin control - connector?oes your C300 still try to feed wire from the built-in feeder? It seems like my homemade control will fire the contactor just fine, but still tries to feed out wire when I pull the trigger on the spool gun.  I tried adding the 5K pot that the amptrol would have, and a resistor load for the motor terminals. I wonder if the Lincoln adapters have an extra resistor or something to let the unit know that a spool gun is connected instead of a hand control?Arclight
Reply:The 5 K pot is what auto senses the spool-gun. The only thing my switch box turns on is the contactor, and gas valve. It leaves the feeder motor inside the C-300 dead. I could only run my LN-25 pro in the CC mode (Stick) before I added the 5 k pot. I even wrote the advanced process guys before I set this up. I can't find that e-mail because it had that info in it.. Let me see if I can find you a link of the guy I that built my setup. It was easier for me to have him build it, because he had everything in stock. He probably remembers the info.Call or E-mail.... Dea and he should remember the way he wired the 5k pot in. http://www.justarc.com/Last edited by Brand X; 09-17-2011 at 11:23 AM.Esab/Lorch ET-220iEsab 160i caddyThermal LM-200 Lincoln feedersThermal Pee-Wee 85sThermal 60i- 3phase /RPC powered (Beast)Thermal Drag-gun 35CINE 1500 Klutch 140i

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